Relay-Version: version B 2.10 5/3/83; site utzoo.UUCP Posting-Version: version B 2.10 5/3/83; site utzoo.UUCP Path: utzoo!henry From: henry@utzoo.UUCP (Henry Spencer) Newsgroups: sci.electronics Subject: Re: Phone systems Message-ID: <7805@utzoo.UUCP> Date: Fri, 20-Mar-87 13:20:29 EST Article-I.D.: utzoo.7805 Posted: Fri Mar 20 13:20:29 1987 Date-Received: Fri, 20-Mar-87 13:20:29 EST References: <1443@ncr-sd.SanDiego.NCR.COM> <642@oliveb.UUCP>, <2281@tektools.TEK.COM> Organization: U of Toronto Zoology Lines: 23 > If both phones are on the *same* CO, is it possible to have a box that > will display the phone number of the calling party? Can this only be > done with the cooperation of the phone company, or is there some > device I can connect to my end of the phone line? Variants of this question come up in mod.telecom with some regularity. The general answer is "no". To find out the number of the calling party, the phone system needs to tell your phone what it is. The phone system does not normally do this. There is no standard electronic way to ask for it. Old exchanges cannot do it at all. Modern phone exchanges are increasingly capable of doing various interesting things like this, but as I recall, this particular service isn't available except perhaps on a few experimental exchanges. (I speak here of the general phone system, not of the peculiar things that may be possible within private exchanges serving a single organization.) Even once the hardware is capable of it, I'd think it very likely that you will have to explicitly ask for it and pay for it. The phone system is under considerable pressure to keep the "basic service" charges low, which means making as much money as possible on non-basic services. -- "We must choose: the stars or Henry Spencer @ U of Toronto Zoology the dust. Which shall it be?" {allegra,ihnp4,decvax,pyramid}!utzoo!henry