Relay-Version: version B 2.10 5/3/83; site utzoo.UUCP Path: utzoo!utgpu!water!watmath!clyde!rutgers!seismo!uwvax!oddjob!gargoyle!ihnp4!homxb!houxm!houdi!marty1 From: marty1@houdi.UUCP Newsgroups: comp.cog-eng Subject: Re: Design Examples Needed Message-ID: <1060@houdi.UUCP> Date: Fri, 17-Apr-87 10:08:26 EST Article-I.D.: houdi.1060 Posted: Fri Apr 17 10:08:26 1987 Date-Received: Sat, 18-Apr-87 06:34:44 EST References: <339@sdics.ucsd.EDU> <50900001@hplabsc.UUCP> Organization: AT&T Bell Laboratories, Holmdel Lines: 32 Summary: Not the puller, the cork! In article <50900001@hplabsc.UUCP>, marvit@hplabsc.UUCP writes: > Bad examples of industrial design include: > ..... > b) 90% of the wine cork pullers THIMK! It's not the puller that's at fault! The cork was designed to stay in the bottle for many years with high probability of retaining a seal. It was not designed to be easy to remove. It takes skill to remove a cork whether you use a puller, a pusher, or a corkscrew. What the world needs is not a better puller for the cork, but a modern closure to replace the cork. By the way, I'm not a poor workman finding fault with his tools. Not only can I use several different types of corkscrew successfully, including the one on my Swiss Army knife, but I have also put a few hundred corks into bottles of wine of my own making, using a hand tool. I think what we're talking about is the design of tools to be used by casual users who don't have training or experience. There's a big difference between tools for a casual user and professional tools. For instance, the "waiter's corkscrew" (a folding lever affair) may be just what a waiter needs, since it fits in a pocket easily, but it's a disaster in the hands of an unskilled user. I know from experience. Does a discussion of corkscrews belong in comp.cog-eng? Yes, as an analogy. What I said about wine corks and wine cork pullers is also true about computer-based tools and what they do. I.e., if your computer tool is doing its job badly, maybe it's doing the wrong job. M. B. Brilliant Marty AT&T-BL HO 3D-520 (201)-949-1858 Holmdel, NJ 07733 ihnp4!houdi!marty1