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From: pavlov@hscfvax.UUCP (840033@G.Pavlov)
Newsgroups: comp.databases
Subject: Re: INGRES for PC
Message-ID: <382@hscfvax.UUCP>
Date: Sun, 19-Apr-87 20:38:06 EST
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Posted: Sun Apr 19 20:38:06 1987
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Organization: Health Sciences Computing Facility, Harvard University
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In article <271@pyuxv.UUCP>, cim2@pyuxv.UUCP (Robert L. Fair) writes:
> The INGRES vendors (RTI) recently did a PC-INGRES demo here, and,
> contrary to previous postings on the net, it is NOT full INGRES.
> Specifically: 
> 	NO ABF
> 	NO RBF (really!)
> 	NO GBF
> 	NO Multi Statement Transactions
> 	NO Journaling/Recovery
> Personally, the last two make it a totally unacceptable product.
> As I said - this info came directly from the RTI salesman & tech rep.
> 
  I have been using pc-ingres for the past 10 days.

  ABF and RBF were late through beta-test, etc, and are now being shipped
  separately - but they are definitely part of the package.

  
  Multi-statement transactions are definitely supported: I have tested this
  thoroughly; Ingres recovers very nicely, unrolling table creates, adds, and
  updates across multiple tables.

  I don't know about GBF (we didn't buy it for our mini version either, so I
  didn't ask about it).  Journaling is not in the release at present; I do
  not know if it is to be added, but suspect not.

  Like you, I am very unhappy about the price.  If RTI was, in fact, simply
  concerned about having to support single-pc-only sites, it could have 
  built something into its rate structure that accomodated mini and mainframe
  licensees.  The one mitigating factor is that run-time-only licenses are
  much more reasonable ($400 ??).

     greg pavlov, fstrf, amherst, ny