Relay-Version: version B 2.10 5/3/83; site utzoo.UUCP Path: utzoo!mnetor!seismo!lll-lcc!styx!ames!ptsfa!pbhyc!jdf From: jdf@pbhyc.UUCP (Jack Fine) Newsgroups: comp.dcom.modems Subject: Re: baud vs. bit/sec. Message-ID: <634@pbhyc.UUCP> Date: Tue, 28-Apr-87 15:25:47 EDT Article-I.D.: pbhyc.634 Posted: Tue Apr 28 15:25:47 1987 Date-Received: Thu, 30-Apr-87 02:14:49 EDT References: <8704220426.AA03311@ucbvax.Berkeley.EDU> Reply-To: jdf@pbhyc.UUCP (Jack Fine) Distribution: world Organization: Pacific * Bell, San Ramon, CA Lines: 22 Ummm... I think I agree with most of the explanations I have seen here on what a bit versus a baud is. Though I am not sure if what I think I read is what I think I understand. Understand? Well anyway I have been advocate for sometime (teachine datacomm) of trying to get people to drop the baud term when referring to data communications. Yes a 300 bps modem's signial is modulated at 300 baud per second times one bit per second giving you 300 bps. However, 1200 bps modems divide each second into 600 parts which is done by a method called four-level phase shift keying. Each part then can then hold two bits of data. This is at 600 baud and if you multiply 600 times the 2 bits you get the 1200 bps transfer rate. With 2400 bps modems you use a 16-level phase shift keying (still at 600 baud) which allows 4 bits of data per baud. So I second the vote for dropping the term baud when used to refer to electronic data transmission. What may be better is the characters per second. With most transmissions it takes 10 bits for a character of data. So 1200 or 2400 divided by 10 would give 120 or 240 characters per second which has more meaning to me as a user. Now if we can just get the modem companies to advertise 240 character modems..... Jack