Relay-Version: version B 2.10 5/3/83; site utzoo.UUCP Path: utzoo!utgpu!water!watmath!clyde!rutgers!husc6!bu-cs!bzs From: bzs@bu-cs.UUCP Newsgroups: comp.edu Subject: Re: Cheating (Is it clearly definable?) Message-ID: <6567@bu-cs.BU.EDU> Date: Wed, 15-Apr-87 12:19:18 EST Article-I.D.: bu-cs.6567 Posted: Wed Apr 15 12:19:18 1987 Date-Received: Fri, 17-Apr-87 00:43:57 EST References: <1368@uwmacc.UUCP> <6487@bu-cs.BU.EDU> <1374@uwmacc.UUCP> <6548@bu-cs.BU.EDU> <1386@uwmacc.UUCP> Organization: Boston U. Comp. Sci. Lines: 33 In-reply-to: edwards@uwmacc.UUCP's message of 15 Apr 87 14:09:08 GMT Posting-Front-End: GNU Emacs 18.41.4 of Mon Mar 23 1987 on bu-cs (berkeley-unix) > Forgive me but, please try to explain it once more. You seem to > have a clear understanding of it. I wish to, also. > > mark No thank you, you have reduced the argument to a sophomoric level of "what can we know absolutely?" Nothing. Cheating is simply what you are "convicted" of in front of whatever due process mechanism is available to hear such cases. All one can outline for you is a way to avoid being brought before such committees, or be confident of your innocence if you are unjustly accused. To quote Clarence Darrow: "Justice has nothing to do with what goes on in the courtroom, Justice is what comes out of the courtroom." Save your nihilistic arguments for the academic review boards (they'll be most amused) and go ahead and copy everything you want and not document it. In the end, you're the one that gets cheated anyhow. Why do you think anyone really gives a shit if you learn a thing for your time and money if you are determined not to? I'd personally rather spend my time with *students* who appreciate the meaning of that term rather than miscreants with a "grade at any cost" attitude and silly rationalizations to back up their in fact self-serving attitudes. Put it this way: If you didn't learn anything, but got the grade, you probably cheated, yourself (hey, but thanks for the tuition money.) -Barry Shein, Boston University