Relay-Version: version B 2.10 5/3/83; site utzoo.UUCP Path: utzoo!utgpu!water!watmath!clyde!rutgers!ames!cit-vax!trent From: trent@cit-vax.UUCP Newsgroups: comp.edu Subject: Re: Cheating on Programming Assignments Message-ID: <2377@cit-vax.Caltech.Edu> Date: Fri, 17-Apr-87 04:48:40 EST Article-I.D.: cit-vax.2377 Posted: Fri Apr 17 04:48:40 1987 Date-Received: Sat, 18-Apr-87 04:43:03 EST References: <248@rruxa.UUCP> <274@sdacs.ucsd.EDU> <211@axis.fr> <6487@bu-cs.BU.EDU> <603@plx.UUCP> Reply-To: trent@cit-vax.UUCP (Ray Trent) Organization: California Institute of Technology Lines: 44 Of course, this wouldn't work everywhere, but... (BTW, I'm a TA, and thus have experience from both ends) We don't have much of a cheating problem here for at least 3 reasons: 1) Classes are small. It's easy to notice cheating if you only have to grade 10 assignments. Also, if profs and TAs encourage the asking of questions and prompt for answers from the class, they get a pretty good idea how much the students know even if they don't assign homework. 2) We have an honor system that really works. Basically, the students are trusted and live up to that trust. The benefits of living under the honor system are greater than the rewards of cheating. Besides, people who are caught cheating and are "convicted" by the Board of Control (an entirely student run organization), are usually tossed out. (i.e. expelled) Cheating doesn't happen much. There is 1 rule here: Thou shalt not take unfair advantage of any other member of the Caltech community. This applies to everything, not just academics. (and yes, people have been nailed to the wall for non-academic honor code violations.) 3) There are few enough people here so that everyone knows everyone. If you are cheating, you'll get caught. Of course, all this depends on recruiting only students who are genuinely interested in learning, and trusting in their integrity. (something which many/most schools seem unwilling to do, for political and economic reasons) A related issue: professors here traditionally specify what amounts of collaboration and reference using are allowed in their classes. (because policies differ widely from class to class and prof to prof.) Another related issue: almost 100% of our mid-terms and finals are take-home. On the cover of the test is a list of the resources that are and are not allowed and the time limit for the test. (there is also good reason to believe that this liberty is not abused) -- ../ray\.. (trent@csvax.caltech.edu, rat@caltech.bitnet, ...seismo!cit-vax!trent)