Relay-Version: version B 2.10 5/3/83; site utzoo.UUCP Path: utzoo!utgpu!water!watnot!watmath!clyde!rutgers!ames!ptsfa!hoptoad!pozar From: pozar@hoptoad.UUCP Newsgroups: comp.mail.headers Subject: Re: fidonet <-> usenet Message-ID: <1989@hoptoad.uucp> Date: Tue, 14-Apr-87 10:42:18 EST Article-I.D.: hoptoad.1989 Posted: Tue Apr 14 10:42:18 1987 Date-Received: Thu, 16-Apr-87 01:09:52 EST References: <149@4gl.UUCP> <3380002@nucsrl.UUCP> Reply-To: pozar@hoptoad.UUCP (Tim Pozar) Organization: Syncstream (San Francisco) Lines: 47 In article <3380002@nucsrl.UUCP> gore@nucsrl.UUCP (Jacob Gore) writes: >>> I can imagen the following: >>> >>> Honzo.Svasek@333.500.FIDO >> [...] >> >> I see the addressing working like this: >> >> user_name@NODEn.NETn.ZONEn.FIDO.NET or >> Tim_Pozar@NODE406.NET125.ZONE1.FIDO.NET >> >> This takes care of two problems. >> 1] Smart mailers could route to the nearest Fido Gateway. >> 2] If additional areas get added (such as POINTs) it can be added >> with out screwing up the gateway. > >The whole beauty of Internet addresses (as I see it) is that they hide the >networking details. What network(s) is "prep.AI.MIT.Edu" on? (That's a >rhetorical question (:-)) > >"Smart" mailers can figure out how to send to a host without having a network >name inplanted into the address. It would be nice if Fido hosts could fit >into this scheme. > I forgot one more reason to add the domain name to the front... 3] A RFC (which on was it Erik?) stated that domains must lead off with a alpha charicter, not a number. Fido hosts are not the culprits here. It is how the Net(fido) is structured and how the gateway is implemented. Here is a question to your question. Where do these two pieces of mail go? user_name@10.2.135.FIDO.NET or user_name@10.101.2.FIDO.NET The first could go to point10, node2, net135, and the second could go to node10, net101, zone2. The problem is that a "2" could be a zone, net, node, or point (and now someone proposed even regions and hubs as seperate levels!) How can smart mailers parse this when I can't? If I receive the first address I would asssume that he wants it to stay in the United States (zone 1) since zones haven't gone over the one digit numbers yet. Are writers of smart mailers going to write all of the possiblities into their mailers? Doubtful. Having the explicit name for the level of each domain can be parsed much cleaner. What we're trying to do is have UUCP mailers handle fido mail and fido mailers handle uucp style mail. The two systems are not entirely different, but they are significantly different to need to use each other a little different to insure the flow of mail.