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From: gnu@hoptoad.uucp (John Gilmore)
Newsgroups: comp.mail.misc,comp.mail.uucp
Subject: Re: whether to prefix myhost! onto the From: or not..
Message-ID: <2019@hoptoad.uucp>
Date: Mon, 20-Apr-87 03:42:21 EST
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Posted: Mon Apr 20 03:42:21 1987
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In article <16238@amdcad.AMD.COM>, bandy@amdcad.AMD.COM (Andy Beals) writes:
> Now, to all the hosts (leadsv, for example) that pass mail without adding
> myhost! to the front but don't pass mail via bsmtp, tisk tisk -- do you know
> how much mail you cause to bounce every day?

For this reason I cut hoptoad's link to leadsv a month or so ago.

Every message that came out of there had a return address that did not
work for replying (leadsv.leads.lmsc.com!user, which is not registered,
so the Internet ".com" handler rejects it).  These messages typically
were replied to, either by mailer daemons or by people, and then the
replies would bounce at hoptoad.  As Postmaster, I got tired of seeing
all this needless junk mail and tried to encourage leadsv to fix their
mailer.  After repeated pleading for them to fix it, I broke the link.

All they would have had to do is add "leadsv!" to the front of what they
had, and/or avoid using a domain name until it was registered; this was too
much for them.

I don't think there's a need for UUCP Protocol Police, but if you have
a neighbor that generates screwy addresses, producing lots of bounced
mail, consider applying a bit of peer pressure.  As their links drop away
they might schedule time for mailer maintenance.  Whether or not they do,
your site will never be bothered by their junkmail again!
-- 
Copyright 1987 John Gilmore; you can redistribute only if your recipients can.
(This is an effort to bend Stargate to work with Usenet, not against it.)
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