Relay-Version: version B 2.10 5/3/83; site utzoo.UUCP Path: utzoo!mnetor!seismo!rutgers!ames!ucbcad!ucbvax!VENERA.ISI.EDU!CASNER From: CASNER@VENERA.ISI.EDU (Stephen Casner) Newsgroups: comp.protocols.tcp-ip Subject: Re: ICMP in ISO Message-ID: <545647655.0.CASNER@VENERA.ISI.EDU> Date: Fri, 17-Apr-87 02:47:35 EST Article-I.D.: VENERA.545647655.0.CASNER Posted: Fri Apr 17 02:47:35 1987 Date-Received: Sun, 19-Apr-87 10:45:16 EST References: <8704141658.AA01378@gateway.mitre.org> Sender: daemon@ucbvax.BERKELEY.EDU Distribution: world Organization: The ARPA Internet Lines: 20 We have used ICMP echoes frequently in testing the Wideband Satellite Net and paths through the gateways that attach to it. Aside from simply probing for connectivity, using ICMP echoes allowed us to measure packet loss and misordering characteristics that would be harder to discern by examination of the behaviour of a transport protocol. It is easy for an ICMP echo tester to send packets at a regular rate and observe the delay distribution of the echo replies. The transmission rate of a transport protocol will likely be affected by network anomolies, clouding the measurement. We had observed unexpected behavior in the NETBLT protocol we were testing; with ICMP echoes we were able to get a better understanding of the performance of the network to serve as a basis for further NETBLT tests. One drawback of testing with ICMP echoes is that the path must be a round trip. Network performance may be different under unidirectional load. ICMP-like datagrams are useful for testing between a separate transmitter and receiver as well, but transmission time is then only relative rather than absolute unless synchronized clocks are available (oh so nice to have!). -- Steve Casner -------