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From: braden@ISI.EDU (Bob Braden)
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Subject: Re:  ICMP echo
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Date: Tue, 28-Apr-87 11:49:03 EDT
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From Dave Mills:
	
	Finally, how about a new ICMP Echo/Echo Reply message that operates
	as the present one, but where the echo server captures the IP header,
	etc., in the same way as ordinary ICMP error messages before returning
	to sender?
	
Yeah, that sounds like the germ of a Good Idea.  The ANSI guys are
probably right, more effort is required to design the
monitoring/diagnostic tools we REALLY need. (But that doesn't mean we
need a 17-layered management architecture before we can make any
progress!).


Here is another example of a testing paradigm we cannot handle now.
In the testing Steve Casner and Mark Lambert have been doing across the
Wideband Net ("Fatnet"), they have wished they could do "one-way
pinging".  That is, they wanted to collect the same data that a normal
Mike Muuss pinger gets, but with no return trip, assuming they could
access the hosts on both ends.  
	
Bob Braden