Relay-Version: version B 2.10 5/3/83; site utzoo.UUCP Path: utzoo!utgpu!water!watmath!clyde!cbatt!ucbvax!hplabs!hplabsc!taylor From: taylor@hplabsc.UUCP Newsgroups: comp.society Subject: Re: Written Literacy Message-ID: <1673@hplabsc.HP.COM> Date: Mon, 27-Apr-87 18:37:58 EDT Article-I.D.: hplabsc.1673 Posted: Mon Apr 27 18:37:58 1987 Date-Received: Wed, 29-Apr-87 01:20:25 EDT Sender: taylor@hplabsc.HP.COM Distribution: world Organization: Hewlett-Packard Laboratories, Interface Technologies Group Lines: 68 Approved: taylor@hplabs Peter Kiehtreiber raises some very interesting points in his recent posting to the group that I'd like to discuss a bit further... > It is quite clear that conventional script is a way of copying, storing > and repeating human speech. I'm not sure I agree with this. It seems to me that we're needlessly limiting ourselves to the vocal aspects of communication. Written communication, by virtue of being able to provide contextual clues and non-standard-English information (like italics and font changes) has the ability to extend beyond the subset of communication that we vocalize. Next time you're talking to someone close your eyes and listen to what they're saying versus keeping them open and watching the gestures, expressions, and other information being transmitted. Certainly there is a lot more to communication than words themselves! Instead, I would like to suggest that written communication is (ideally) a vehicle for the transliteration of communication between individuals to a permanent medium. (a thought: now that we have the ability to videotape discussions, does that make transcripts obsolete? Should we start giving people *films* of plays, rather than *scripts* of plays?) (of course that leads to another interesting point, that the ``higher the bandwidth'' of a form of communication, the more likely that it will be a subject interpretation of the information, rather than the information itself. This is exemplified by the increased bias shown in TV news reporting versus newspaper news reporting, and that versus radio news reporting). > My experience is, however, that written script serves as more than just a > recording medium. It is also a medium of reflection. This is indeed an interesting point however, he later comments: > ...when we speak ad lib, we do not produce, on the average, particularly > profound output. I strongly disagree with this. I would in fact argue that conversations are the most natural form of communication that we have, and that our languages are designed for that. The point is that there is a whole lot more to communication than just `the words we're saying'. A somewhat social example is that at a party quite a bit more can be learned about peoples attitudes towards each other by examining their posturings and expressions than by listening to what they're saying to each other. So with written communication - we can reproduce quite a large set of information in a written medium, but the more 'bandwidth' we add, the more likely we are to convey the ideas we're attempting to. For example, textbooks are almost invariably written using different fonts, with lots of photographs, shaded boxes for key phrases, and so on. The meta-information is at least as important as the information (some famous writer or the other once said that if his book wasn't good enough to leaf through and enjoy, it certainly wasn't good enough to READ and enjoy...) Also, one of the advantages to dialogues, as Peter points out, is that it is a high-feedback system where people can convey confusion, disagreement, and so on all without ever having to wait for even the speaker to finish their sentence, let alone their entire thoughts on the subject. There are truly a lot of subtle cues that are present in discussions. > It's no accident that many animal races have *language* but almost none > have *written language*. I'm quite intrigued by the 'almost none' in this phrase. It is my understanding that us humans are the only creatures on this planet that have a written form of communication. Am I wrong? -- Dave Taylor