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From: ma183say@sdcc3.ucsd.EDU (Lee Fountain)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.amiga
Subject: Re: Turbo Pascal Rumor
Message-ID: <3864@sdcc3.ucsd.EDU>
Date: Mon, 20-Apr-87 12:09:53 EST
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Posted: Mon Apr 20 12:09:53 1987
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Organization: University of California, San Diego
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Keywords: Pascal, Kahn, looks grim

In article <672@puff.WISC.EDU> upl@puff.WISC.EDU (Future Unix Gurus) writes:
> (Regarding TDI Modula-2)

>I also recommend it, but with reservations. The new editor screws up
>alot- its still really buggy. Often it will get into a state where instead
>of showing me my errors, it puts a line and a half of spaces at the top of
>my file (wierd). Worse, if I edit a file very much, I will find that it will
>sometimes lock on me when it hits an error pointer. Anoying. Would be a crtical
>problem if I didn't have the ASDG recoverable ramdisk.
>Third problem I got my updates OK, but my new manual is still backordered.
>I found ALOT of new routines and features that the 5 page release sheet
>that came with my update didn't mention, wonder what else I'm missing....
>I still recommend it to anybody who, like me, knows and despises C !
>>
>>  You will still have to learn C if you wish to write any serious
>>  code for the Amiga as all of the examples are written in C (->RKM),
>>  barring the ones that come with M2.
>Not true. They offer a full demo disk now that has all the RKM demos
>re-written in MODULA2, as well as a number of neat small applications
>programs. At worse, you will only have to learn to read C, not write
>it anyway. Believe me theres a BIG difference between the two!
>>
>Jeff Kesselman
>uhura!captain@puff.cs.wisc.edu

  The current errors in the editors should be fixed and ready for
  delivery in about six weeks, as should be the new manual.

  Regarding the statement that the EXAMPLE disk has all of the RKM
  examples, well, that is simply an incorrect fact.  I have both of
  the example disks and they do not have anywhere *NEAR* all of the
  examples ported over, not even close.  Furthermore, does anyone
  expect all of those C programmers out there to write their
  examples in M2 as well as C?  F_ck no! It would be hard enough
  getting them to write code compatible with Manx and Lettuce....

  As I stated before, you'll still have to learn C well enough to
  port (not just read; have a thorough understanding of what is
  going on)
  C to M2 before you can do any serious dev work. (You don't
  have to *program* in C, mind you).

  "You'll never be able to get away from C if you want to code on
  the Amiga.  Learn it, live it, but you don't have to love it or
  use it."

  John
  7OHN