Relay-Version: version B 2.10 5/3/83; site utzoo.UUCP Path: utzoo!mnetor!seismo!ut-sally!husc6!husc7!hadeishi From: hadeishi@husc7.HARVARD.EDU (Mitsuharu Hadeishi) Newsgroups: comp.sys.amiga Subject: Re: Attached-file icons vs. Font/DA Mover Message-ID: <1710@husc6.UUCP> Date: Tue, 21-Apr-87 13:58:16 EST Article-I.D.: husc6.1710 Posted: Tue Apr 21 13:58:16 1987 Date-Received: Wed, 22-Apr-87 04:23:24 EST Sender: news@husc6.UUCP Reply-To: hadeishi@husc7.UUCP (Mitsuharu Hadeishi) Organization: Harvard Univ. Science Center Lines: 46 Summary: Problems One thing I've noticed about Mac users is that they find the Desktop metaphor very useful. Something I HAVE noticed, however, is that the non-technical among them don't even know the Font/DA Mover exists, and they don't know how to handle fonts and desk accessories. There are advantages to this approach. Having lots of icons for all the fonts is probably too messy and not advantageous. In this case, you might want to have something like a Font/DA Mover (call it Font Mover.) This is simply because fonts really should be treated differently from support data directories or support libraries, in that any application can use them, and it is easier to perhaps manipulate a list of fonts in a Font Mover program than to move tens of little font icons around (although the font icons could be made to look like the font, which would be cute.) However, one can implement both strategies. For things like font management, you might want to implement something like a Font/DA Mover. For device drivers, libraries, printer drivers, data directories attached to an application, and so on (in particular the last use) you really want to use an attached-files icon approach. This approach has the advantage of using the same visual metaphor and reduces the amount of technical knowledge the user needs in order to play with his/her Amiga and configure it to his/her needs. I might be convinced that printer drivers should be put under the aegis of a Font/DA Mover, but this is not the way the Mac does it (there is a little icon for each printer driver in the System folder.) Also, the Workbench user who only uses one printer (I suspect this is the majority of users) could simply delete all the printer icons that s/he didn't need. I've already suggested a Device Manager or Device Mover should be implemented to allow the Workbench user to select which devices should be mounted or not. One small problem arises with vd0: and suchlike devices which must be mounted first, before other tasks have a chance to mess up memory; perhaps a special devices-to-be-mounted-at-startup list should be provided and scanned at startup. vd0: also needs to be polled, as in a DIR command or something-can this be worked around, Perry? Can vd0: be changed to wake up at Mounttime rather than at first poll? Perhaps the system software should initialize the device when it is mounted, rather than just adding it to the device list. Alternatively, a "prepend" function (i.e., prepend to startup-sequence) could be added (in addition to "append"). Of course, "prepend" is more messy and in general isn't what you want. So some sort of explicit system support for mounting and initializing devices on startup would be nice. -Mitsu