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From: upl@puff.WISC.EDU (Future Unix Gurus)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.amiga
Subject: Re: Turbo Pascal Rumor
Message-ID: <682@puff.WISC.EDU>
Date: Mon, 20-Apr-87 20:25:18 EST
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Posted: Mon Apr 20 20:25:18 1987
Date-Received: Sun, 26-Apr-87 00:25:44 EST
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Organization: U of Wisconsin CS Dept
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Keywords: Pascal, Kahn, looks grim

In article <3864@sdcc3.ucsd.EDU-> ma183say@sdcc3.ucsd.edu.UUCP (Lee Fountain) writes:
->In article <672@puff.WISC.EDU> upl@puff.WISC.EDU (Future Unix Gurus) writes:
->> (Regarding TDI Modula-2)
->
->
->  The current errors in the editors should be fixed and ready for
->  delivery in about six weeks, as should be the new manual.
Great!
->
->  Regarding the statement that the EXAMPLE disk has all of the RKM
->  examples, well, that is simply an incorrect fact.  I have both of
->  the example disks and they do not have anywhere *NEAR* all of the
->  examples ported over, not even close.

I have only taken a look at those examples that I needed, I was quoting from
the release sheets. If this is not the case, I (and the adverts)stand corrected.
->Furthermore, does anyone
->  expect all of those C programmers out there to write their
->  examples in M2 as well as C?  F_ck no! It would be hard enough
->  getting them to write code compatible with Manx and Lettuce....
->
->  As I stated before, you'll still have to learn C well enough to
->  port (not just read; have a thorough understanding of what is
->  going on)
->  C to M2 before you can do any serious dev work. (You don't
->  have to *program* in C, mind you).

Quibbling. Read=Understand. You can't say you read english unless you
understand it, can you?
->
->  "You'll never be able to get away from C if you want to code on
->  the Amiga.  Learn it, live it, but you don't have to love it or
->  use it."
->
I'd rather not live it, thank you. Yes, you will have to learn to understand
it, for the moment anyway. When I asked the net about alternatives to C on
the Amiga a year or so ago, I got a suprising number of responses from
people using TDI Modula2. If we can get organizedf and active, I suspect
we can build up a good sized m2 Amiga PD library too. We're a little
behind, but our language is easier to program in. ( BIG :) , don't
flame at me. Is joke, okay?)

Jeff Kesselman
uhura!captain@puff.cs.wisc.edu