Relay-Version: version B 2.10 5/3/83; site utzoo.UUCP Path: utzoo!utgpu!water!watnot!watmath!clyde!rutgers!lll-lcc!ames!ucbcad!ucbvax!BCO-MULTICS.ARPA!Mandel%PCO From: Mandel%PCO@BCO-MULTICS.ARPA.UUCP Newsgroups: comp.sys.apple Subject: Re: Nomenclature suggestion Message-ID: <870413201920.997311@HIS-PHOENIX-MULTICS.ARPA> Date: Mon, 13-Apr-87 15:19:00 EST Article-I.D.: HIS-PHOE.870413201920.997311 Posted: Mon Apr 13 15:19:00 1987 Date-Received: Wed, 15-Apr-87 23:54:51 EST Sender: daemon@ucbvax.BERKELEY.EDU Reply-To: "Mark A. Mandel" Distribution: world Organization: The ARPA Internet Lines: 15 Terry L. Myers suggests saving time by saying "White-N" and "Black-N" instead of "Open-Apple-N" and "Closed-Apple-N". On my keyboard the Open-Apple is dark brown outline with tan (=background) fill on a tan background, and the Closed-Apple is solid dark brown on a tan background. That's close enough to white and black, as a contrast; I won't quibble over it. BUT in the s/w that I've seen that displays these symbols on screen, the Open-Apple is glowing-green(amber,white-- call it "bright") outline with dark fill on a dark background, while the Closed-Apple is solid bright on a dark background. On the screen, the "white" and "black" are reversed. The only constant is whether the apple shape is formed by an outline and filled with the background color (Open-Apple) or solid against the background (Closed-Apple). Calling them "white" and "black" would introduce complete confusion to any environment where the symbols are presented bright on a dark background, as is the case most of the time when they are displayed on screen.