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From: ix181@sdcc6.ucsd.EDU (J. )
Newsgroups: comp.sys.atari.st
Subject: MWC v2.0
Message-ID: <3125@sdcc6.ucsd.EDU>
Date: Fri, 17-Apr-87 02:11:13 EST
Article-I.D.: sdcc6.3125
Posted: Fri Apr 17 02:11:13 1987
Date-Received: Sun, 19-Apr-87 10:43:42 EST
Organization: University of California, San Diego
Lines: 76
Keywords: C compiler, 2nd version, great!, capsule review


<<< Line eater food >>>

Sorry I couldn't come up with a funny line for above . . .

Hello folks. I just got my update of Mark Williams' C (v2.0) in
the mail today. I have been playing with it for the last 7 or 8
hours. It is marvelous!
   Some first impressions:

	1) The compile/edit/compile cycle is wonderful! I know this
	is already in Megamax, but it is really nice to have it.
	It makes working much faster and nicer.

	2) The shell (MSH) is *vastly* improved. I didn't use the
	last version's shell because it wasn't as good as Micro
	C-Shell, but this one will retire the C-Shell. A short list
	of features/improvements:  alias'ing(!!!)(I am lazy), IF and
	WHILE loops w/ conditional statements, improved history command,
	improved and more controllable re-direction, POSTFILE
	execution, etc.

	3) There is a RAMDISK utility that *looks* (mine was
	thrashed when it came, I am calling tomorrow to get a new
	disk) nice. You can warm boot from it! It can also be made
	to come up (from within an AUTO folder) with your files
	already in it!

	4) --** THE DOCUMENTATION **-- is unspeakably wonderful. All
	of AES/VDI is documented in the great lexicon style of the
	last version. The "ghost" routines (the scrap library, the
	shell library) that have been missing from everything I've
	seen are in here! So is the correct Pexec() call. What more
	can I say?

Some other random notes:  I just finished recompiling my own version
of Micro Emacs (the sources come with the compiler) on my system. "So
what" you ask? I have only a 1040ST with ONE double sided disk
drive. I run a 512K RAM disk, and compiling the 150K+ source files
for uEmacs was a snap. If anyone else needs to run a small edition
of MWC, drop me a line and I'll send you my configurations.
   The support at the Mark Williams' company is great. I have called
many times on their toll free number with problems, and always
gotten fast, courteous service. My update was out within 24 hours
after they had received my check ($55 US). The people are nice.
   Well, I guess you can see that I like MWC a lot. Well, to be
fair, there are still a few nagging things that I have the gall to
kvetch about:  no inline 68000 asm coding, and no resource
constructor set. The first doesn't bug me too much, I hate assembly.
The second would be very nice. Maybe next update? For now I use the
Kuma Resource program, which is fine.
   So, in conclusion, I can't see why anyone would want to write C
code using any other system. MWC is now almost as fast as (if not as
fast as) Megamax, has a great environment, has wonderful documentation,
and wonderful support. By spending $150 for the compiler, and $50
for the Kuma Resource Editor, it's my opinion that you get all that
the Developer's kit gives, and more for $100 less.
   Enough said.


   John Ogawa


ps> it's ANSI C compatible (with the draft)

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nor do theirs reflect mine.