Relay-Version: version B 2.10 5/3/83; site utzoo.UUCP Path: utzoo!utgpu!water!watnot!watmath!clyde!rutgers!husc6!seismo!nbires!hao!noao!mcdsun!sunburn!gtx!edge!doug From: doug@edge.UUCP Newsgroups: comp.sys.ibm.pc Subject: Re: IBM's new System 2 Personal Computers Message-ID: <632@edge.UUCP> Date: Fri, 10-Apr-87 13:35:56 EST Article-I.D.: edge.632 Posted: Fri Apr 10 13:35:56 1987 Date-Received: Sun, 12-Apr-87 19:56:47 EST References: <8704052015.AA09396@cory.Berkeley.EDU> <516@umnd-cs.D.UMN.EDU> Organization: Edge Computer Corporation, Scottsdale, AZ Lines: 34 > ... None of their new > machines are "clone smashers", especially their top-of-the-line micro, which > is way overpriced. After reading through almost a dozen different news reports on the System/2, it's clear that "clone smashing" was *not* IBM's intent. A lot of people think that IBM is somehow all-powerful in the computer biz, but it ain't so. In the mid-60's, CDC drove IBM almost completely out of the scientific-computer market and followed it up with a lawsuit that IBM settled out-of-court very expensively. DEC virtually created the "engineering" computer market, and IBM has failed to make a noticeable dent despite numerous efforts (Apollo and Sun have done much better than IBM). IBM made two assaults on the "home" computer market (the original PC was a 16K, no-disk, cassette-based machine with BASIC in ROM, and then the PC-jr). Commodore came out the clear winner both times. Now IBM has lost again, and is involved in a "strategic retrenchment". They have, with System/2, abandoned the small-business and personal-productivity computer markets. The new machines are unquestionably aimed at IBM's most loyal customers: the Fortune 500. The big attraction is that IBM claims that these new computers will be able to communicate with IBM mainframes "without seams" (no upload/download steps). These "PCs" won't be sold as stand-alone computers; they're actually a new breed of super-intelligent terminals. (They do have a compatibility mode which allows them to run PC-DOS programs.) Personally, I think IBM's right. They can't compete in the small-business market. And they can virtually dominate the Fortune 500 market if their PCs can communicate easily with IBM mainframes, because the Fortune 500 has a *lot* of IBM mainframes installed. -- Doug Pardee -- Edge Computer Corp. -- Scottsdale, Arizona