Relay-Version: version B 2.10 5/3/83; site utzoo.UUCP Path: utzoo!utgpu!water!watnot!watmath!clyde!rutgers!ames!ucbcad!ucbvax!sdcsvax!nosc!humu!uhccux!aloha1!islenet!jons From: jons@islenet.UUCP Newsgroups: comp.sys.ibm.pc Subject: Re: IBM's new System 2 Personal Computers Message-ID: <3216@islenet.UUCP> Date: Sat, 11-Apr-87 16:26:58 EST Article-I.D.: islenet.3216 Posted: Sat Apr 11 16:26:58 1987 Date-Received: Wed, 15-Apr-87 00:09:00 EST References: <8704052015.AA09396@cory.Berkeley.EDU> <655@unccvax.UUCP> Reply-To: jons@islenet.UUCP (Jonathan Spangler) Organization: Islenet Inc., Honolulu Lines: 38 In article <655@unccvax.UUCP> cbenda@unccvax.UUCP (carl m benda) writes: >In article <8704052015.AA09396@cory.Berkeley.EDU>, dillon@CORY.BERKELEY.EDU (Matt Dillon) writes: >> >> I don't believe IBM has been listening to it's user community. >> There new entry level machine is using a #@$ 8086! None of their new >> machines are "clone smashers", especially their top-of-the-line micro, which >> is way overpriced. >> >> -Matt > >Price performance wise, the model 80 is a steal!! It is 3.5 times faster than >an AT for 1.5 times the INVESTMENT! I say investment because I just sold >my AT for merely 400 less than what I paid for the thing in the first place >(paid = 4200); Try that with a clone! You know, it would be really nice if people quite DEFENDING IBM. Matt is right. IBM is more interested in *profit* than in *user feedback*. This is an article that appeared in March 30 InfoWorld: "PC Managers Reluctant to buy new PC's on Faith (Wait-and-see Position Prevails) On the eve of IBM's long-awaited announcement of its new PC lin, corporate PC managers are telling InfoWorld that the time has passed when they bought IBM microcomputers "on faith." Most say they intend to put the new machines through rigorous testing and price/performance evaluation before purchasing." To this I say, BRAVO! I remember about a year ago, InfoWorld had the results of a study that mentioned that the main reason people buy IBM was because of reputation. I would guess that the same study done today would reveal different results. FINALLY, people are *looking* beyond the facade of the three letters. Aloha, Jonathan Spangler {ihnp4,vortex,dual}!islenet!jons OR jons@islenet.hawaii.edu