Relay-Version: version B 2.10 5/3/83; site utzoo.UUCP Path: utzoo!mnetor!seismo!uwvax!uwmacc!myers From: myers@uwmacc.UUCP (Jeff Myers) Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac Subject: Re: WARNING--512K UPGRADE!!! Message-ID: <1428@uwmacc.UUCP> Date: Sat, 25-Apr-87 19:23:58 EDT Article-I.D.: uwmacc.1428 Posted: Sat Apr 25 19:23:58 1987 Date-Received: Sun, 26-Apr-87 21:45:13 EDT References: Organization: UWisconsin-Madison Academic Comp Center Lines: 65 > To make a long story short, it is official Apple policy (I think we > all know by now, although it seems kinda new to me) that once the board has > been touched by non-Apple hands, any Apple upgrades made on it cannot be > guaranteed. The friendly dealer posessed by the demon Apple proceeded to > have me sign the work order saying that I accept that the upgrade is not > under a warranty. Knowing that the warranty period is but a real long 90 > days (my 512K upgrade was warranted for 180 days!!!), I proceeded to sign it. > If it dies, it will probably do so after the warranty anyway. This is pretty standard stuff...it's to discourage tinkering and encourage sale of official Apple upgrades. Now with the MacII, upgrades are encouraged because all you have to do is plug things in slots. Should it have been done that way in the first place? Probably, but Apple is moving in the right direction. You might have tried refusing to sign the amendation. You had no legal obligation to sign. Would they have refused to upgrade without the signature? > COME ON, WORM (I mean Apple)!! Just where do you get off? If the ROM itself > was defective, it would not be warranted???? > > And how about the drive??? Just what can the "unoffical" upgrade do to a > drive? The only thing I've seen doing dirty deeds with the drive is SOFTWARE > (all you CMU people know what I'm talking about--A certain software package > used in Intro that eats disks for dessert). First, if something is wrong with the ROMs it will almost always be immediately apparent. Second, most drive problems will be apparent quite early as well. I'm not certain if Apple's remedy limitation would stand up in court if you did not explicitly agree to it, if it could be easily proven that the merchandise was defective. Of course, you would probably need the aid of a law student or better to force your point of view. The Uniform Commercial Code is a wonderful thing... > Are you people at WORM (sorry, I'm just not typing well today) trying to suck > up more money from empty college bank accounts all over???? Um, I for one am quite glad that Apple gives the quite substantial educational discounts that they do -- for instance, an SE here at the UW costs a mere $1700, $1200 off retail. How are the discounts at Carnegie-Mellon? Lighten up and pray that nothing breaks... ;-) > HOWZABOUT YOUR WARRANTY PERIOD?? Huh??? Do you intentionally make it so > short so as to take advantage of people's fears and boost your sale of > WormCare??? Perhaps this is why it is so short, but electronics problems are almost universally going to show up early. The drive is a slightly different story, given Apple's early problems with the 800K drives breaking down, but they again tended to break down fairly early. > I'm still waiting for a 512K==>1Mb Dove upgrade from Programs Plus. I don't > have a HyperDrive to worry about, so I hope it will work out well. As usual, > I will relate any negative or positive experiences to the net. If I were you (which I am in a way, having a 512KE), I'd go immediately for a 2M upgrade with SCSI port thrown in. I'm waiting for a SuperMac Enhance upgrade, which is six weeks overdue. Anyone out there from SuperMac listening? Has production slowed because you were purchased by a bigger corporation? Concentrating on producing MacII products? Cheers, Jeff M.UUCP