Relay-Version: version B 2.10 5/3/83; site utzoo.UUCP Path: utzoo!utgpu!water!watmath!clyde!rutgers!ames!ptsfa!hoptoad!gnu From: gnu@hoptoad.UUCP Newsgroups: comp.arch,comp.sys.nsc.32k Subject: Re: the NS32532 Message-ID: <2000@hoptoad.uucp> Date: Fri, 17-Apr-87 08:11:24 EST Article-I.D.: hoptoad.2000 Posted: Fri Apr 17 08:11:24 1987 Date-Received: Sat, 18-Apr-87 05:33:47 EST References: <4190@nsc.nsc.com> <951@moscom.UUCP> <4198@nsc.nsc.com> Organization: Nebula Consultants in San Francisco Lines: 23 Xref: utgpu comp.arch:901 comp.sys.nsc.32k:75 I must say that Roger Thompson's statement "We provided a range of numbers, in an effort to allow people to make up their own minds." is a marvel even in the bizarre world of chip marketing. Sure -- they mention 19000 dhrystones, and 14000 dhrystones, and a number in the middle -- people can make up their own mind. It's just that the 19000 number was obtained by running the invalid version 1.0 benchmark by violating its instructions about turning off optimization -- in order that all the systems be compared under the same conditions. But you can make up your own mind. I say keep at 'em Landon -- finally you are in a position where they can't gag you when you point out their, uh, inappropriate marketing practices. (In case the audience doesn't know, Landon used to work for National and got into trouble with their management for telling good customers the truth about the parts when it conflicted with the story NSC management wanted people to believe.) May the best chip succeed, despite its marketing people! -- Copyright 1987 John Gilmore; you can redistribute only if your recipients can. (This is an effort to bend Stargate to work with Usenet, not against it.) {sun,ptsfa,lll-crg,ihnp4,ucbvax}!hoptoad!gnu gnu@ingres.berkeley.edu