Relay-Version: version B 2.10 5/3/83; site utzoo.UUCP Path: utzoo!utgpu!water!watmath!clyde!rutgers!dayton!meccts!zeke!stag!trb From: trb@stag.UUCP Newsgroups: comp.unix.questions Subject: Re: Cheap wonderful UNIX boxes (Sun 3/50) Message-ID: <117@stag.UUCP> Date: Fri, 17-Apr-87 13:37:36 EST Article-I.D.: stag.117 Posted: Fri Apr 17 13:37:36 1987 Date-Received: Sat, 18-Apr-87 08:42:28 EST References: <791@kodak.UUCP> <6402@bu-cs.BU.EDU> <607@elmgate.UUCP> Reply-To: trb@stag.UUCP ( Todd Burkey ) Organization: Mindtools ST Access Group, Plymouth, MN Lines: 32 I tend to agree with the previous comments about getting a Sun for $4995. It is a heck of a deal, but I also haven't ever been too happy about upgrade and repair costs on Sun workstations (I used to work for CV who used Sun's quite extensively.) I waded through a lot of options before choosing my Symmetrics 375 system (also $4,995 interestingly enough.) It comes complete except for a terminal, but I already had a Wyse which works great at 38,400 baud and an Atari ST for all my graphics needs (the unit even came with uw and uwtools to allow me to configure my ST as a multi-window device.) I put a lot of value on getting a BSD 4.2 system as opposed to a sys V system (I know...boo hiss), but I still don't feel comfortable with the system V systems and the lack of all the utilities and features of the berkley workbench (I am sure they will be indistinguishable soon). One thing I like about the Symmetrics is that it comes with 4 RS232 ports and a parallel printer port, all of which were quickly utilized (i.e. 2 ports for modems, one for the st, and one for the wyse...) It also had an ST506 port as well as a SCSI port. Personally, the ST506 port is all I think most of you will ever need. You can pick up a 80 meg bare drive for around 900 (i.e. seagates new 25 ms one) and case and PS for another 150 and you are way ahead of where you would be putting a SCSI of the same size on. Software-wise, the symmetrics comes standard with everything that comes standard on a VAX version of BSD 4.2...about 3,000 files worth of stuff. -Todd Burkey ...ihnp4!meccts!zeke!stag!trb I am not affiliated in any way with Symmetrics...and I will be a satisfied customer when they finally ship my manuals and documentation for this system (ever try to get a system up and running using just the man pages?!)