Relay-Version: version B 2.10 5/3/83; site utzoo.UUCP Path: utzoo!mnetor!seismo!rutgers!ames!cit-vax!mangler From: mangler@cit-vax.Caltech.Edu (System Mangler) Newsgroups: comp.unix.questions Subject: Re: file times Message-ID: <2406@cit-vax.Caltech.Edu> Date: Sun, 19-Apr-87 03:38:40 EST Article-I.D.: cit-vax.2406 Posted: Sun Apr 19 03:38:40 1987 Date-Received: Sun, 19-Apr-87 17:47:32 EST References: <12854@watnot.UUCP> <6362@mimsy.UUCP> Distribution: na Organization: California Institute of Technology Lines: 17 Summary: getting users to clean up In article <12854@watnot.UUCP> djfiander@watnot.UUCP writes: >... do any of the usual UNIX utilties/programs use the creation/access >times in a file [...]? The undocumented "-v" option to 4.[23] BSD /etc/quot lists the number of kilobytes not accessed in 30, 60, 90 days. This is useful when pleading with self-righteous users to clean out their deadwood. It would be even more valuable if it summarized far longer access times (for the highly self-righteous types who use 80% of the disk space and cannot be cajoled/coerced to delete anything accessed within the last 500 days). The change time (st_ctime) is used only by /etc/dump. Neither atime nor ctime is useful if you do backups with "tar", since tar accesses all the files. Don Speck speck@vlsi.caltech.edu {seismo,rutgers,ames}!cit-vax!speck