Relay-Version: version B 2.10 5/3/83; site utzoo.UUCP Path: utzoo!utgpu!water!watmath!clyde!rutgers!mit-eddie!apollo!jps From: jps@apollo.UUCP Newsgroups: comp.unix.questions Subject: Re: dsb unix vs. dec's vms Message-ID: <34ab3c5c.8be4@apollo.uucp> Date: Mon, 4-May-87 20:31:00 EDT Article-I.D.: apollo.34ab3c5c.8be4 Posted: Mon May 4 20:31:00 1987 Date-Received: Thu, 7-May-87 04:09:40 EDT References: <5828@shemp.UCLA.EDU> <34ab0e42.8be4@apollo.uucp> Organization: Apollo Computer, Chelmsford, Mass. Lines: 35 Lets try that one more time... >I know that bsd unix outperforms vms; I also know by >experience that vms interfaces (to programs and other >users) are quite bad. I am so stunned by this comment I don't know where to begin. You left your thinking cap at home today didn't you? You "KNOW" that bsd unix outperfoms vms do you? What is the basis of this "KNOWLEDGE". If you have this "KNOWLEDGE", as you claim, then why are you posting this request. VMS interfaces "are quite bad" ? REALLY! I have worked with both UNIX and VMS for many years and whereas VMS does have its weakness, I don't think that any sentient entity could say that its interfaces "are quite bad". And another thing. VMS is written/controlled by people who give a sh*t. They care whether it works or not and they attempt to bring this attitude out in their product. UNIX one the other hand, (even though I love it) really doesn't care whether it works or not. The attitude seems to be one of "If I can make a funny remark or witty comment about the inadequancies of the program, then I don't have to make it work." Thats why "FIND" is documented with: "BUGS: The syntax is very painfull." If they cared, they'd fix it. But no, its "HO HO HO thats so funny, isn't UNIX great. Oh yea man, thats like ""double panic"" right before your machine is about to be hosed HA HA HA. How about all those wicked funny error messages that come up while your trying to patch the file system yuk yuk."