Relay-Version: version B 2.10 5/3/83; site utzoo.UUCP Path: utzoo!utgpu!water!watnot!watmath!clyde!rutgers!sri-unix!hplabs!hplabsc!taylor From: taylor@hplabsc.UUCP Newsgroups: mod.comp-soc Subject: Re: Literacy versus Computer Literacy Message-ID: <1490@hplabsc.HP.COM> Date: Wed, 25-Mar-87 20:14:56 EST Article-I.D.: hplabsc.1490 Posted: Wed Mar 25 20:14:56 1987 Date-Received: Fri, 27-Mar-87 04:13:24 EST References: <1411@hplabsc.HP.COM> Sender: taylor@hplabsc.HP.COM Distribution: world Organization: NASA Ames Research Center, Moffett Field, Calif. Lines: 32 Approved: taylor@hplabs A tad bit more on the subject. I've enjoyed the postings, and I especially like those which present the concept of understanding what is being done. I made mention of an invitation I was given to speak on a panel for BARRET (something like Bay Area Regional Educational Technology or something). I was going to play Devil's Advocate in favor of "programming as computer literacy" or "programming as Latin" (quote from a friend's wife). Since I have not heard from those guys, let me instead present here one instance which causes me concern. During the release of the film, "Wargames," I happen to read two different campus newspaper reviews of the film. The first was from UCSC, and the second from Stanford (I give these names to be truthful, not to slander these institutions). Both made mention of the techniques used by Matt Broderick's character to break into different computer systems. What's interesting were the observations of the two reviewers and myself: the system cracker used a simple sequential search of all possible telephone prefixes: the reviewer from UCSC said just that: sequential search (we both saw that), but it surprised me that the Stanford reviewer did not see this, and ascribed the generation of phone numbers as technological magic (could not understand how it was done). Frankly, I would fear for some who could not see this (are students getting a good education for the money paid at SU?). What kinds of people are being turned out in (liberal arts) educational institutions who might be unable to see something I saw, and I know lots of little kids could see, but their parents, and others can't. This worries me. Basically, I am against `apparent' technological "magic." Literacy is a requirement for free people, and I hope computers would be minimally used as agents of evil (oversimplification, but enough). --eugene miya NASA Ames Research Center