Relay-Version: version B 2.10 5/3/83; site utzoo.UUCP Path: utzoo!utgpu!water!watnot!watmath!clyde!rutgers!husc6!necntc!ames!ucbcad!ucbvax!CS.UCL.AC.UK!jon From: jon@CS.UCL.AC.UK.UUCP Newsgroups: mod.protocols.tcp-ip Subject: Tcp/Ip vs a store & forward network Message-ID: <8703311326.AA18899@ucbvax.Berkeley.EDU> Date: Tue, 31-Mar-87 06:05:29 EST Article-I.D.: ucbvax.8703311326.AA18899 Posted: Tue Mar 31 06:05:29 1987 Date-Received: Thu, 2-Apr-87 03:11:29 EST Sender: daemon@ucbvax.BERKELEY.EDU Distribution: world Organization: The ARPA Internet Lines: 23 Approved: tcp-ip@sri-nic.arpa Actually, I thought the Internet WAS a store-and-forward network. Gateways store up packets as they are received and forward them after a queueing delay. I think you really meant "message switching" as opposed to "packet switching". Yep. In the UK we use a spooled FTP system called NIFTP (Network independant file transfer protocol). This works over anything and we have it on 11/44s on Cambridge rings, vaxen and pyramid, TCP/IP over ethernet. The spec says you can checkpoint files, so it will work over junk networks without having to break large files down yourself. It also does binary etc, and it does some sorts of run-length encoding, for people with 30bps packet radio nets! It also has sensible authentication, unlike ftp which seems happy to send LOGIN passwords around on networks without encryption (try and sell that to a commercial company with ethernet). The spec may be got from the Joint Network Team in the UK. Implementations for ?NIXs exist. Why reinvent the wheel, when you can get a halftrack for free - or you could wait for FTAM. jon