Relay-Version: version B 2.10 5/3/83; site utzoo.UUCP Path: utzoo!utgpu!water!watnot!watmath!clyde!rutgers!ames!ucbcad!ucbvax!A.ISI.EDU!LYNCH From: LYNCH@A.ISI.EDU.UUCP Newsgroups: mod.protocols.tcp-ip Subject: Re: My Broadcast Message-ID: <8704040234.AA07554@ucbvax.Berkeley.EDU> Date: Fri, 3-Apr-87 21:18:43 EST Article-I.D.: ucbvax.8704040234.AA07554 Posted: Fri Apr 3 21:18:43 1987 Date-Received: Sun, 5-Apr-87 07:05:37 EST References: <8704021845.AA08097@violet.berkeley.edu> Sender: daemon@ucbvax.BERKELEY.EDU Distribution: world Organization: The ARPA Internet Lines: 19 Approved: tcp-ip@sri-nic.arpa John, I think you did a good thing. Testing for idiotic holes in the "system". Now, if you could figure out a way to encourage them to get plugged. I remember years ago being annoyed at the loose security in the Tenex operating system that was prevalent on the early Arpanet. I couldn't get the wizards at BBN to "fix" the problems by the "usual" means. So, one day I took advantage of the holes and, across the net, all by myself with no confederates, obtained the password of the wizard of all wizards and sent it to him in a one word mail message. No other communication was necessary. He plugged the holes as fast as his fingers could type. I was a "good guy" and he knew it, but it took an actual event to drive the point home it wouldn't be too long before someone else would figure out the method i used an dperhaps not be so benign. Can you think of a similar thing to do? Or have you already done it? (I think not because what you are pointing out is going to take lots of thinking to solve. But, it has to start somewhere. Dan -------