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From: galvin@dewey.UUCP
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Subject: Re: My Broadcast
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Date: Tue, 7-Apr-87 07:42:27 EST
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	From:     Robert Allen <robert@spam.istc.sri.com>

	I don't think that 'normal' users should expect that their
	Email be any more secure than their USMail.

I don't buy this.  Why should we restrict or constrain current technology
based on what we are used to?  There is no reason that electronic mail can't
be more secure than USMail.  Isn't it self-defeating to assume otherwise?

	From:     Rudy.Nedved@h.cs.cmu.edu

	Encouraging people to find holes and then use them to make the
	local system programmers work on them is wrong. It is like
	encouraging people to find out if their neighbors lock their
	door during the day so they will. Do you really want that or do
	you want the theives to be caught? I want the theives to be
	caught and the ability to leave my door open. I don't want to
	fear my neighborhood or my users.

This analogy doesn't hold in the internet (small i intended).  It is not your
neighbors you are worried about.  You can live in a "friendly" network just
like you can live in a "friendly" neighborhood.  The problem is, your friendly
network is a great deal "closer" to the unfriendly ones than your friendly
neighborhood is close to unfriendly ones.

Isn't this what Dan Lynch meant when he said:

	From: Dan Lynch <LYNCH@a.isi.edu>

	What we are learning with some of the facilities for message
	sending is that our "internet" is very highly connected and
	even can be considered to be too highly connected for some
	forms of (even innocent) misbehavior.  How do we benefit from
	what we have learned thus far?

	... But the big thing that we need to understand is that we do
	not understand how to live in these highly connected internets
	yet.  Much more research needs to happen in the area of
	intergroup interactions.  And much more tolerance needs to be
	exhibited towards those who are probing the edges of all this.

Jim