Relay-Version: version B 2.10 5/3/83; site utzoo.UUCP Path: utzoo!utgpu!water!watnot!watmath!clyde!cbatt!ucbvax!SUMEX-AIM.STANFORD.EDU!MRC%PANDA From: MRC%PANDA@SUMEX-AIM.STANFORD.EDU.UUCP Newsgroups: mod.protocols.tcp-ip Subject: Re: My Broadcast Message-ID: <12292825682.6.MRC@PANDA> Date: Wed, 8-Apr-87 04:48:16 EST Article-I.D.: PANDA.12292825682.6.MRC Posted: Wed Apr 8 04:48:16 1987 Date-Received: Sat, 11-Apr-87 05:10:53 EST References: Sender: daemon@ucbvax.BERKELEY.EDU Distribution: world Organization: The ARPA Internet Lines: 18 Approved: tcp-ip@sri-nic.arpa Alan - I consider it a given that Unix will never be "safe" (although it can be made a lot "safer"). The whole point of my message (or flames, if you will) was to knock a hole into some of the complacency surrounding "standard" software. The incident that started this entire discussion demonstrated an instance in which a particular operating system lacked a sanity check. It is my contention that certain (but not all) versions of this operating system (Unix) have an endemic lack of such sanity checks. Since this operating system is the primary operating system on the DDN it is crucial that these oversights be corrected. Otherwise, as long as there are other operating systems or crackers on the network there will be similar incidents. If I didn't care, I'd keep my mouth shut. -- Mark -- -------