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From: magore@watdcsu.UUCP
Newsgroups: news.sysadmin,news.misc
Subject: Re: Valspeak in sci.* ( fake postings ?)
Message-ID: <3277@watdcsu.UUCP>
Date: Tue, 14-Apr-87 11:25:32 EST
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Posted: Tue Apr 14 11:25:32 1987
Date-Received: Wed, 15-Apr-87 02:47:33 EST
References: <8704130552.AA04744@ingres.Berkeley.EDU> <1116@cartan.Berkeley.EDU>
Reply-To: magore@watdcsu.UUCP (Mike Gore, Institute Computer Research - ICR)
Organization: U. of Waterloo, Ontario
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Hello Gene,

In article <1116@cartan.Berkeley.EDU> gsmith@brahms.Berkeley.EDU (Gene Ward Smith) writes:
[was about valspeak ...]

>In point of fact, Paul Koloc is not using valspeak.  Someone, apparently
>at mimsy.umd.edu is however--Matthew and I just checked at several sites,
>and have contacted Paul via e-mail.  This is just like the teenage ames
>bozos who have been changing weemba's articles for almost a year now.
[munch...]
>
>	Gene Ward Smith

	This may not be a only case of a possible faked posting.
In talk.religion.misc I found the two following headers attributed to
Ken Arndt for what is supposed to be Paul's news site. I have two
correct examples following those the reflect recent traffic from 
Pauls Machine. I hope this information will be of help to you and
Paul and who ever else thought the funny paths were strange...
This may help you find a least common root path _if_ someone is
playing games with the postings...:


Best Regards,

[Note: The 'Sender field' in the following two postings that I have
 never found in a typical posting from prometheus. Checking out the
 map database might give some insight...]

====================
Ken Arndt ????? (talk.religion.misc)
====================
Path: watdcsu!watnot!watmath!clyde!rutgers!husc6!panda!genrad!decvax!ucbvax!prometheus.UUCP!arndt
Message-ID: <607@prometheus.UUCP>
Sender: daemon@ucbvax.BERKELEY.EDU
--------
Path: watdcsu!watnot!watmath!clyde!rutgers!husc6!panda!genrad!decvax!ucbvax!prometheus.UUCP!arndt
Message-ID: <606@prometheus.UUCP>
Sender: daemon@ucbvax.BERKELEY.EDU


=================
Paul	(talk.religion.misc)
=================
Path: watdcsu!watnot!watmath!clyde!rutgers!lll-lcc!seismo!mimsy!prometheus!pmk
Message-ID: <601@prometheus.UUCP>
--------
Path: watdcsu!watnot!watmath!clyde!rutgers!seismo!mimsy!prometheus!pmk
Message-ID: <618@prometheus.UUCP>
--------

...

# Mike Gore 
# Institute for Computer Research. ( watmath!mgvax!root - at home )
# These ideas/concepts do not imply views held by the University of Waterloo.