Relay-Version: version B 2.10 5/3/83; site utzoo.UUCP Path: utzoo!utgpu!water!watmath!clyde!rutgers!seismo!rick From: rick@seismo.UUCP Newsgroups: news.misc,comp.org.usenix Subject: Re: UUNET Communications Service Available Message-ID: <43573@beno.seismo.CSS.GOV> Date: Wed, 15-Apr-87 14:51:23 EST Article-I.D.: beno.43573 Posted: Wed Apr 15 14:51:23 1987 Date-Received: Fri, 17-Apr-87 03:35:42 EST References: <43389@beno.seismo.CSS.GOV> <45745@seismo.CSS.GOV> Distribution: na Organization: Center for Seismic Studies, Arlington, VA Lines: 45 Xref: utgpu news.misc:258 comp.org.usenix:118 Summary: clarification on ATTMAIL pricing In the original posting I said that using ATTMAIL cost about $30 per hour. Some people have taken exception to that figure. Since ATTMAIL charges by 7500 character chunks instead of hourly, it was necessary to convert to similar units to make any comparison. Since the UUNET pricing and the CSNET pricing are by the hour, I converted the ATTMAIL price to an hourly basis. ATTMAIL does not charge by connection time. However, since we are talking about transferring data and not on-line composition, I think the $30 per hour is valid for comparison purposes. Figuring a cost of 80 cents to transfer a 7500 byte message and a throughput of 800 baud on a 1200 baud modem (a reasonable throughput according to most systems log files), we get 800 baud -> 80 characters per second -> 288,000 characters per hour. 288,000 / 7500 = 38.4 message chunks * 80 cents per chunk = $30.72 So, the effective price of sending data for 1 hour through ATTMAIL is actually in excess of the $30 per hour I mentioned. (If you use 2400 baud instead of 1200 baud, the hourly cost is correspondingly higher) Note that this is a best case. If you message was only 500 bytes, you would still pay the 80 cents. To work it the other way, to send a 7500 character message through UUNET would be: (7500 character message + 800 character header) / 288,000 characters per hour * $3 per hour = 8.6 cents to send your 80 cent message. Actually it could be as high as 15 cents because we charge a 3 minute minimum. Or, to convert both pricing schemes using the above assumptions, UUNET would be slightly over 1 cent per 1000 characters, while ATTMAIL would be over 10 cents per 1000 characters. ATTMAIL excels at offering a telex service and in dealing with people who do not have a dedicated Unix system for mail. However, the cost of using ATTMAIL as a uucp gateway is too expensive (at least for any non-trivial volume). ---rick