Relay-Version: version B 2.10 5/3/83; site utzoo.UUCP Path: utzoo!utgpu!water!watmath!clyde!rutgers!mit-eddie!ooblick From: ooblick@mit-eddie.UUCP Newsgroups: talk.religion.misc,news.misc,news.sysadmin Subject: Re: Foothead, Foothead, on the net/Who's the biggest liar yet? Message-ID: <5577@eddie.MIT.EDU> Date: Wed, 22-Apr-87 15:38:37 EST Article-I.D.: eddie.5577 Posted: Wed Apr 22 15:38:37 1987 Date-Received: Fri, 24-Apr-87 03:07:00 EST References: <1128@cartan.Berkeley.EDU> <3198@mirror.TMC.COM> <1129@cartan.Berkeley.EDU> Reply-To: ooblick@eddie.UUCP (Mikki Barry) Organization: MIT, EE/CS Computer Facilities, Cambridge, MA Lines: 25 Xref: utgpu talk.religion.misc:2624 news.misc:289 news.sysadmin:124 Since I opened my mouth on this issue in the first place, I feel obliged to clarify my views. First, I admit a big error in being upset about root using privileges when someone is accused of wrongdoing. I should have thought first. However, when said "root" then posts to the net that fh was using scripts in his login to "forge news and mail", this is where I get upset. This was blatently untrue. The scripts were used to allow Pooh and Paul Zimmerman news and mail access. I have been told that "time" was the reason why this was not checked out before action was taken. However, the time it has taken in posting to the net in the first place, then in response to complaints from myself and others, seem to indicate that it would have been much more prudent to check first. Therefore, the reasons posted to the net for removing fh were bogus. On the other hand, fh could just as easily (and without so much bullshit) have been removed for NO reason, or because it sure looks like he at least had something to do with the phony arndt articles. Not that I am crushed because fh is no more (quite the contrary), I just don't like the "act now, check later" attitude, and hope that other sysadmins do not adopt it. Mikki Barry