Relay-Version: version B 2.10 5/3/83; site utzoo.UUCP Path: utzoo!mnetor!seismo!rutgers!aramis!webber From: webber@aramis.RUTGERS.EDU (Webber) Newsgroups: news.stargate Subject: a no cost solution to the current netflow problems Message-ID: <521@aramis.RUTGERS.EDU> Date: Thu, 23-Apr-87 03:15:23 EST Article-I.D.: aramis.521 Posted: Thu Apr 23 03:15:23 1987 Date-Received: Sat, 25-Apr-87 00:31:42 EST References: <965@vortex.UUCP> <7946@utzoo.UUCP> Organization: Rutgers Univ., New Brunswick, N.J. Lines: 37 Summary: the key stuff is in the first screen full. In article <7946@utzoo.UUCP>, henry@utzoo.UUCP (Henry Spencer) writes: (re why usenet will distruct) > I do. I'll tell them that it self-destructed due to its inability to > handle unlimited growth. It will, you know... Actually we are helping it self-distruct (it ain't dying a natural death). THE BASIC SOLUTION: The most natural solution would be that if the a site cannot expend more than a certain amount of resources toward supporting the net, then it should just support the net to the extent that it can and then cease for that day. That would let the net adapt to such throughput restrictions in a `natural manner' (other sites picking up more share as they percieve greater responsibility). Of course, this is quite different from the power trip of getting up and telling everyone that you support the net to $x and you are going to control the net or completely withdraw. GENERAL PHILOSOPHY BEHIND THE PROBLEM AND SOLUTION: Both stargate and moderated groups are symptoms of the same kind of wrong-thinking, i.e., if you have a distributed system and it is having problems, the solution is to centralize control. Both stargate and moderators will naturally suffer from the problem that when central control goes down, the system flounders. In both cases you have information being first distributed to a central site then being broadcast from there. The result is that the central site (and immediate neighbors) control the system (both directly by setting policy and indirectly in that their problems become everyones). Sure they will reduce flow, but unmoderated newsgroups (where existing in tandam with moderated newsgroups) have consistantly higher quality (will come back to this in a later message), faster response, and greater reliability. ----------------------- BOB (webber@aramis.rutgers.edu ; BACKBONE!topaz!webber)