Relay-Version: version B 2.10 5/3/83; site utzoo.UUCP Posting-Version: version B 2.10 5/3/83; site utzoo.UUCP Path: utzoo!henry From: henry@utzoo.UUCP (Henry Spencer) Newsgroups: news.stargate Subject: Re: a no cost solution to the current netflow problems Message-ID: <7960@utzoo.UUCP> Date: Sat, 25-Apr-87 21:11:47 EST Article-I.D.: utzoo.7960 Posted: Sat Apr 25 21:11:47 1987 Date-Received: Sat, 25-Apr-87 21:11:47 EST References: <965@vortex.UUCP> <7946@utzoo.UUCP>, <521@aramis.RUTGERS.EDU> Organization: U of Toronto Zoology Lines: 40 > The most natural solution would be that if the a site cannot expend > more than a certain amount of resources toward supporting the net, > then it should just support the net to the extent that it can and then > cease for that day... This is what many sites are in effect doing. The key point is that those sites would like to support the *best* material, not just whatever happens to arrive first. This implies some sort of selection mechanism. > That would let the net adapt to such throughput > restrictions in a `natural manner' (other sites picking up more share > as they percieve greater responsibility)... What happens if nobody is willing to pick it up? Frankly, most of the backbone sites would be delighted to pass the whole job to somebody else. There is a distinct lack of volunteers for massive phone bills, massive system load, clogged communications lines, and regular public abuse. > ... unmoderated newsgroups (where existing in tandam with > moderated newsgroups) have consistantly higher quality (will come back > to this in a later message), faster response, and greater reliability. Faster response and greater reliability I don't argue with, since imposing any sort of single-point filtering mechanism inherently hampers those. Actually, I might argue with them somewhat in the context of Stargate, since Stargate transmission is both faster and more reliable once the article gets to the uplink site. The question is whether this makes up for it having to reach a moderator by mail and then get from him to the uplink; I suspect the answer is "not entirely". As for consistently higher quality, nonsense! The quality of a newsgroup is largely determined by two things: (1) how many really good people are reading it and posting to it, and (2) how much drivel is being posted by the real turkeys. Moderated groups win hands-down on item 2. As for item 1, the good people increasingly ignore the unmoderated groups because they don't have time to wade through all the drivel. Any apparent quality lead for the unmoderated groups is strictly temporary. -- "If you want PL/I, you know Henry Spencer @ U of Toronto Zoology where to find it." -- DMR {allegra,ihnp4,decvax,pyramid}!utzoo!henry