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From: ooblick@eddie.MIT.EDU (Mikki Barry)
Newsgroups: news.misc,news.sysadmin
Subject: Re: Foothead, Foothead, on the net/Who's the biggest liar yet?
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Date: Sun, 19-Apr-87 19:44:32 EST
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Posted: Sun Apr 19 19:44:32 1987
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Reply-To: ooblick@eddie.UUCP (Mikki Barry)
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In article <5553@eddie.MIT.EDU> ambar@eddie.UUCP (Jean Marie Diaz) writes:
>In article <1065@epimass.UUCP> jbuck@epimass.UUCP (Joe Buck) writes:

>>However, forging articles, breaking into
>>machines, altering others' articles, and changing .forward files
>>to redirect mail are grounds not only for being thrown off the net,
>>but possibly a criminal case can be made (for the prometheus
>>breakins).

Yes, I heartily agree.  But only if someone is actually doing these things,
and it can be proven.

>Faking mail and/or news is not tolerated here.  The shell scripts in
>Foothead's home directory for doing both are ample reason to pull his
>account.  Whether or not he is the perpetrator of the fake
>arndt@prometheus articles is not relevant, although I would add that
>files in /usr/rlr on borax seem to bear this out, as they contain the
>tell-tale line:
>To: (Erik Fair's magic address, which I won't post)

An important factor that everyone seems to have missed here is that
Foothead's home directory was PROTECTED.  I have spoken to foothead on
this issue, and he told me that not only are his directories protected,
but the "shell scripts" in them were created to give net access to
Pooh, and to Paul Zimmerman, a FACT, that I have checked with both of
them.  This was done with the full concent of OTHER EECS staff.

Charging somebody with faking mail and news before you have proof, and while
the only evidence you have is obtained by using your root privs to read
other's protected directories is quite the case of the pot calling the kettle
black.  This is a certain case of "jumping the gun" at best, and blatent
censorship at worst.

You don't like foothead, fine.  Delete his account, but don't make up
lies to justify your actions.  By the way, Ambar, did you check with anyone
else on staff before trashing someone else's account?

>At any rate, we will not tolerate people using mit-eddie as a base for
>harassing people.  fh@mit-eddie is gone.

And I do not like the fact that you appear to be using your root privs
to look through protected directories.  I also don't like faked news and/or
mail articles.  If it is proven that fh did it, great.  Kick him off the
net forever.  But trashing someone before you have proof is reprehensible.

Mikk1Suf il