Relay-Version: version B 2.10 5/3/83; site utzoo.UUCP Path: utzoo!mnetor!seismo!decuac!gouldsd!mjranum From: mjranum@gouldsd.UUCP (Marcus J Ranum) Newsgroups: news.admin,news.sysadmin Subject: woops, boy am I dum. Message-ID: <496@gouldsd.UUCP> Date: Wed, 22-Apr-87 11:47:25 EST Article-I.D.: gouldsd.496 Posted: Wed Apr 22 11:47:25 1987 Date-Received: Fri, 24-Apr-87 03:28:27 EST Organization: Gould Electronics, Landover MD. Lines: 45 Keywords: sources - previous assertions, justified flames, etc. Xref: mnetor news.admin:337 news.sysadmin:136 Re my previous assertions that E-mail was protected as if it were *REAL* mail: I guess I wholly deep-throated my foot, there. I can't quote a source, and don't recall where I got the information that led me to make that posting. What can I say ? When I made my posting, I *KNEW* I had read it somewhere. Afterwards, I thought about it, and can't remember where I read it. I am forced to doubt myself, finally. I am still looking, by the way. It's like, one of those things when you get to work on a Monday morning, and try to shoot your mouth off, and find you forgot and left your head at home. Hell, I'm really sorry. Sorry I flamed when I was only half-baked. On the other hand, if I DO manage to find my source, then I reserve the right to crow insufferably. In the meantime, while I am still suffering the slings and arrows of foot-facedness, I'd like to mention that whether it *IS* law now, or is not, the status of E-mail *IS* going to become a serious problem. I suspect that the "net"s are going to become a major "USsnail" substitute. People already carry on more private business than is advisable. On one hand, we have the people who claim: "What's on my machine is mine" and on the other, "What's my private business is mine". While the first approach is frequently most convenient for sysadmins, I feel it should be fought as much as possible. If it becomes a legal precedent, as net/E-mail traffic becomes more and more important, it will be easier for the (insert yours) NSA/Gov't/IRS/CIA/Commies/DrugFreeks/Lawyers to monitor our activities. For those of you who have been keeping track of the cellular radiophone biz, there is a big deal currently about protection of person's cellular radio transmissions. Currently it is illegal to monitor cellular communications. (I *CAN* get you a ref for *THAT*!). Are you willing to give your right to secure communications away ? Never mind enforceability, it would be nice to know there is a legal recourse if someone snoops my mail, and sees something that can hurt me. -- Copyright, 1987 - Anarchist Software Foundation - ALL RIGHTS RESERVED In reproducing this document in any form, the licensee (you) agrees to pay the ASF 5$/copy distributed, and to admit that software law is a subject better left for lawyers and slimy nerds. Live Free or die !