Relay-Version: version B 2.10 5/3/83; site utzoo.UUCP Path: utzoo!utgpu!water!watnot!watmath!clyde!rutgers!husc6!linus!philabs!aecom!werner From: werner@aecom.UUCP Newsgroups: sci.bio Subject: Re: Human asymmetry Message-ID: <1025@aecom.UUCP> Date: Sat, 11-Apr-87 15:57:11 EST Article-I.D.: aecom.1025 Posted: Sat Apr 11 15:57:11 1987 Date-Received: Sun, 12-Apr-87 17:44:51 EST References: <1003@aecom.UUCP> <586@batcomputer.tn.cornell.edu> <3432@udenva.UUCP> Distribution: sci Organization: Albert Einstein Coll. of Med., NY Lines: 36 Keywords: chirality Summary: Prochiral versus chiral In article <3432@udenva.UUCP>, agranok@udenva.UUCP (Alexander Granok) writes: > In article <1013@aecom.UUCP> werner@aecom.UUCP (Craig Werner) writes: > > > > H > > A prochiral center such as XCH has 2 Hydrogens that are identical. > > Y > > With a three dimensional model, it is easy to point to one in > >the pro-R and another in the pro-S... > > Can you make assignments such as R and S in this case? It all depends upon I see that non-biochemists are troubled by the concept of prochirality. By definition, a prochiral molecule is a symmetric (i.e. achiral) molecule that would be made chiral if one of the identical atoms (Hydrogen in the above example) were replaced by a third atom, Z. It is true that the identity of the pro-R and pro-S hydrogen is absolutely ambiguous unless one knows the priority of the Z group in relation to X and Y, but for any given reaction where the products and reactants are known, it will be unambiguous. Where it is simple hydrogenation/dehydrogenation, the assignment is made by replacing one of the Hydrogens with Deuterium (first done experimentally by Frank Westheimer), usually as a Gedanken experiment. Finally, when I said that chemists cannot avoid a mixture of enantiomers during a chemical synthesis, while enzymes can be stereochemically specific, I did not preclude the possibility of chemists using and/or designing enzymes -- but I thought that went without saying. Obviously, to the nitpickers on the net, nothing goes without saying.... -- Craig Werner (MD/PhD '91) !philabs!aecom!werner (1935-14E Eastchester Rd., Bronx NY 10461, 212-931-2517) "If you've heard this story before, don't stop me. I want to hear it again."