Relay-Version: version B 2.10 5/3/83; site utzoo.UUCP Path: utzoo!utgpu!water!watnot!watmath!clyde!rutgers!seismo!nbires!isis!udenva!agranok From: agranok@udenva.UUCP Newsgroups: talk.origins,sci.bio Subject: Re: mass extinctions Message-ID: <3451@udenva.UUCP> Date: Sun, 12-Apr-87 12:46:22 EST Article-I.D.: udenva.3451 Posted: Sun Apr 12 12:46:22 1987 Date-Received: Tue, 14-Apr-87 00:31:52 EST References: <3366@udenva.UUCP> <1415@cybvax0.UUCP> <621@prometheus.UUCP> Reply-To: agranok@udenva.UUCP (Alexander Granok) Organization: U of Denver Lines: 32 Keywords: Wolves vs. Coyotes Xref: utgpu talk.origins:520 sci.bio:276 Summary: Coyotes have been hunted for years In article <621@prometheus.UUCP> pmk@prometheus.UUCP (Paul M. Koloc) writes: >In article <1415@cybvax0.UUCP> mrh@cybvax0.UUCP (Mike Huybensz) writes: >>In article <3366@udenva.UUCP> agranok@udenva.UUCP (Alexander Granok) writes: > >>> It's the same sort of thing with coyotes and wolves today. > >>No it's not. Wolves have been exterminated by humans, because when their >>normal food sources were swept aside to make room for domesticated animals, >>they adapted by eating the domesticated animals. It has been cost effective >>for humans to wipe out wolves (for assorted reasons), but not coyotes. I disagree. I *know* that for many years, ranchers out here in Colorado and New Mexico (where I am from) have been out to eliminate the "coyote problem." The only reason that it is cost ineffective to wipe out coyotes, when compared to wolves (as far as I can tell) is that it just can't seem to be done. In fact, in many areas where coyotes were hunted, they actually thrived! They were attacked for just the same reason you gave for the wolves. We now know that this just isn't the case. Though I have seen many coyotes in the wild, I have never seen a wolf. I would like to, someday. I have heard them when I was camping, and it was one of the most chilling sounds that I have ever heard. Let's hope that the sound doesn't disappear forever. -- Alex Granok hao!udenva!agranok "A slow sort of country!" said the Queen. "Now, here, you see, it takes all the running you can do, to keep in the same place. If you want to get somewhere else, you must run at least twice as fast as that!"