Relay-Version: version B 2.10 5/3/83; site utzoo.UUCP Path: utzoo!utgpu!water!watmath!clyde!rutgers!husc6!seismo!rlgvax!cliff From: cliff@rlgvax.UUCP Newsgroups: sci.bio Subject: Re: No Limits to Growth Message-ID: <414@rlgvax.UUCP> Date: Wed, 15-Apr-87 10:00:45 EST Article-I.D.: rlgvax.414 Posted: Wed Apr 15 10:00:45 1987 Date-Received: Fri, 17-Apr-87 00:28:51 EST References: <533@cpocd2.UUCP> <121700003@inmet> Organization: Computer Consoles Inc, Reston VA Lines: 40 In article <121700003@inmet>, janw@inmet.UUCP writes: > > [howard@cpocd2.UUCP ] > >Meanwhile, the desert marches on. > > A misleading statement - considering that the amount of arable > land in the world keeps growing. Much is lost, more is gained. > The green revolution is opening former wastelands to agriculture. Consider that this growth in arable land is frequently (usually?) at the expense of forest land, not wasteland. > Famine exists - but is it caused by popu- > lation growth? *That's* the point. > > Well, it is definitely *not*. There would be more sense in blam- > ing famine on *underpopulation*. World population has grown, > famine has receded. Worldwide, there's a tremendous glut of > What? How do you measure famine receding, in a lesser absolute number of people who go to bed hungry, or proportionally to the population? Many would scoff at the assertion that famine has lessened in the modern world. While certainly politics and war can be, and probably frequently are, especially in northeast Africa and Mozambique, the major component causing famine, to claim that overpopulation does not contribute to famine (poverty) is simply ludicrous. At the very least, you can claim that overpopulation make war, and the ensuing famine, much more likely. Absolute causal statements about complex social issues should always be held suspect. -- O-----------------------------------------------------------------------> | Cliff Joslyn, Computer Consoles Inc., Reston, Virgnia, but my opinions. | UUCP: ..!seismo!rlgvax!cliff V All the world is biscuit shaped