Relay-Version: version B 2.10 5/3/83; site utzoo.UUCP Path: utzoo!utgpu!water!watnot!watmath!clyde!cbatt!ucbvax!hplabs!kitty!larry From: larry@kitty.UUCP Newsgroups: sci.electronics Subject: Re: Stolen item-detectors (Was: Re: Laser eavesdropping) Message-ID: <1698@kitty.UUCP> Date: Sun, 12-Apr-87 10:05:30 EST Article-I.D.: kitty.1698 Posted: Sun Apr 12 10:05:30 1987 Date-Received: Mon, 13-Apr-87 06:19:10 EST References: <959@obelix.UUCP> <1104@nonvon.UUCP> Organization: Recognition Research Corp., Clarence, NY Lines: 26 Summary: Perhaps still just an LC circuit? In article <1104@nonvon.UUCP>, apn@nonvon.UUCP (apn) writes: > I visited the local music shop (Wherehouse) and after purchasing > a tape, I disected the security device that was taped to the side. It > contained to foil plates mostly covered with paper with the exception > of two small openings used as access to destroy the function of the > device. Two wires each leaving one plate joined on opposite sides > of a silicon die. Examining the silicon die under a occulars. It > seemed to be only a simple diode and nothing more. Is it possible that what you thought to be a diode was in fact an unencased "chip" capacitor? If it were a capacitor, it would imply that the detector element was just an LC circuit. The above device sounds to me like one of the detector elements of a UHF theft-detection system which relies upon RF power absorption. While varactor diodes have been considered for use in the detector elements of theft-detection systems as a frequency multiplier circuit, it is my understanding that the cost of varactor diodes is still prohibitive for such applications. Most retail stores are _cheap_ when it comes to spending money for items which do not directly attract business, so the cost of most disposable theft-detection elements is << $ 0.15; if the cost were much more, stores would not buy 'em. <> Larry Lippman @ Recognition Research Corp., Clarence, New York <> UUCP: {allegra|ames|boulder|decvax|rocksanne|watmath}!sunybcs!kitty!larry <> VOICE: 716/688-1231 {hplabs|ihnp4|mtune|seismo|utzoo}!/ <> FAX: 716/741-9635 {G1,G2,G3 modes} "Have you hugged your cat today?"