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From: dan@maccs.UUCP (Dan Trottier)
Newsgroups: comp.bugs.4bsd,comp.unix.wizards
Subject: Re: problems with microvax ethernet
Message-ID: <587@maccs.UUCP>
Date: Thu, 14-May-87 13:43:47 EDT
Article-I.D.: maccs.587
Posted: Thu May 14 13:43:47 1987
Date-Received: Sat, 16-May-87 08:28:45 EDT
References: <170@uw-apl.UUCP> <144@utecfb.Toronto.Edu>
Reply-To: dan@maccs.UUCP (Dan Trottier)
Organization: DCSS, McMaster University, Hamilton, Ontario, Canada
Lines: 48
Keywords: named, ifconfig, 4.3, hanging
Xref: mnetor comp.bugs.4bsd:348 comp.unix.wizards:2311

In article <144@utecfb.Toronto.Edu> larry@ecf.toronto.edu (Larry Philps) writes:
>We had similar problems when we first brought up 4.3, and it turned
>out that the whole problem was a result of the nameserver.  First
>when you run ifconfig with a symbolic name such as
>	ifconfig lo0 localhost
>the gethost* routines will try to connect to named to find the
>address for localhost.  Unfortunately, the gethost* routines connect
>to the named using localhost.port#, thus they will hang for 45 seconds
>(the network timeout interval) before giving up.  If you have several
>ifconfig's in a row, then they will hang one after another.
>...
>We solved the problem by not putting any symbolic names in ifconfig
>lines.  Make the host addresses real internet addresses like
>	ifconfig lo0 127.1
>and the system will come up.  Individual progarms will still hang if
>named is running, but is not configured properly.  You should comment
>its invocation out of rc.local.
>...

We had the same problem here at maccs (McMaster Univ. Comp. Sci.). I 
spoke with Keith Bostic (at Berkeley) and got our system up and running
using the same method as Larry Philps tried. 

Keith did mention that a patch for this problem -- Keith didn't refer to
it as such -- should appear soon in "ucb_fixes". 

Besides the networking problem the only glitch in bringing 4.3 up was the
changed nameming convention in the /dev directory and the disk partition
changes with regard to the RA81 drives. (does anybody know if 4.3 handles
bad blocking any better on these drives?)

One more question, in our distribution (VAX 11/780, full source) there 
seems to be missing the crypting ability. For example vi doesn't recognize
the "-x" option anymore and xsend, xget, and enroll are missing. Now we
had and still have these utilities from 4.2 and will be using them but 
what I would like to know is how come they are not in my distribution.
Maybe I should ask if any of you that have 4.3 have received the encryption
utilities.

I think I remember something about DES encryption algorithm being changed.
Could it be that it is now classified and cannot be distributed with 
foreign orders. This is all very silly if this is the case. 

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