Relay-Version: version B 2.10 5/3/83; site utzoo.UUCP Path: utzoo!mnetor!seismo!gatech!gitpyr!kludge From: kludge@gitpyr.gatech.EDU (Scott Dorsey) Newsgroups: comp.edu Subject: Re: Cheating on Programming Assignments (Honor System) Message-ID: <3546@gitpyr.gatech.EDU> Date: Fri, 8-May-87 10:58:57 EDT Article-I.D.: gitpyr.3546 Posted: Fri May 8 10:58:57 1987 Date-Received: Sat, 9-May-87 18:07:51 EDT References: <263@rruxa.UUCP> <1466@uvacs.CS.VIRGINIA.EDU> Reply-To: kludge@gitpyr.UUCP (Scott Dorsey) Organization: Georgia College Of Universal Knowledge Lines: 28 Keywords: cheating, honor systems, crock In article <1466@uvacs.CS.VIRGINIA.EDU> dam@uvacs.UUCP (Dave Montuori) writes: >Its first use was at William and Mary, where it's still in effect after >208 years. The penalties there range from reprimands to expulsion, with >F's and one-semester suspensions being most common. A second offense >may only be punished by expulsion. Furthermore, harassment and threats >against person A for turning person B in (whether the threats are by >person B or not) is *also* an honor offense and is usually punished >by immediate expulsion. It works VERY, VERY well at William and Mary. I can't say anything about any other schools, but in two years there I didn't really see a single case of cheating, and I would have reported it, had I seen it. I didn't even see students studying old tests; they felt that it was more valuble to know the material than the format. Now I am here at Georgia Tech. I have seen three people blatantly cheating this week. I have seen students networking HP calculators, running wires down the aisle in class. I have seen students tapping out answers to multiple choice tests in morse code, with the end of their pencils. It takes more than an honor code. It also takes honor. A code must be enforced, and it must be enforced by the people that it affects. If this is not done, it is most probably worthless. The honor does not lie in the code, but in the students themselves. -- Scott Dorsey Kaptain_Kludge ICS Programming Lab (Where old terminals go to die), Rich 110, Georgia Institute of Technology, Box 36681, Atlanta, Georgia 30332 ...!{akgua,allegra,amd,hplabs,ihnp4,seismo,ut-ngp}!gatech!gitpyr!kludge