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From: edwards@uwmacc.UUCP (mark edwards)
Newsgroups: comp.edu
Subject: Re: Cheating on Programming Assignments (Honor System)
Message-ID: <1501@uwmacc.UUCP>
Date: Wed, 13-May-87 08:43:04 EDT
Article-I.D.: uwmacc.1501
Posted: Wed May 13 08:43:04 1987
Date-Received: Sat, 16-May-87 02:37:16 EDT
References: <263@rruxa.UUCP> <1532@celtics.UUCP>
Reply-To: edwards@unix.macc.wisc.edu.UUCP (mark edwards)
Organization: UW-Madison Academic Computer Center
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Keywords: honor is not a quantifiable noun

In article <1532@celtics.UUCP> roger@celtics.UUCP (Roger Klorese) writes:
>In article <263@rruxa.UUCP> gwl@rruxa.UUCP writes:
>>    This is a crock.  Honor Systems are a joke.  I attended Stevens
>>Institute of Technology in Hoboken, NJ my freshman year.  At Stevens
>>they also had an honor system.
>
>This is a comment, not on honor systems, but on Stevens.  
>
>If you can't conduct your life with honor, it's probably not worth
>conducting at all; too bad the fools around you don't get with the
>program.  If you feel you need an enforcement system to protect your
>interests from their cheating... well, that's what's wrong with
>"the curve".

  I guess the problem is that there are as many different interpretation
of what honor is, as what cheating is. It seems clear that most of the
students at Steven's had no sleepless nights worring about their honor,
tests may be a different story.

 Honor can be very destructive also. Think of the Captain going down
with his ship. Or how about a fight over your honor, your family's
honor or perhaps even your sister's.

 The US and Russia seem to think that they must observe nuclear testings,
placements of nuclear arms and so forth. Why did the Soviets build 
electronic bugs into the steel beems that were to go into the building
of the American Embassy? Is there no honor between nations?

 The orient has a thing called "saving face". Sometimes it costs them
lots of money. 

 Honor seems to be a thing only quantifiable in a persons mind. Some
people seem to have more of it, or perhaps just a better understanding
of it. Honor is probably also culturally based, or defined. So what
is honorable for one culture may be jailable for another. Since the
US is made up of people from most of the countries in the world it
would seem natural that honor would differ from area to area within
the US.

more idle ramblings
mark
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