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From: ln63szb@sdcc13.UUCP
Newsgroups: comp.edu
Subject: Re: Cheating on Programming Assignments (Honor System)
Message-ID: <859@sdcc13.ucsd.EDU>
Date: Thu, 14-May-87 06:44:25 EDT
Article-I.D.: sdcc13.859
Posted: Thu May 14 06:44:25 1987
Date-Received: Sat, 16-May-87 09:06:08 EDT
References: <263@rruxa.UUCP> <1466@uvacs.CS.VIRGINIA.EDU> <854@sdcc13.ucsd.EDU> <1533@celtics.UUCP>
Reply-To: ln63szb@sdcc13.ucsd.edu.UUCP (Grobbins)
Organization: U.C. San Diego
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In article <1533@celtics.UUCP> roger@celtics.UUCP (Roger Klorese) writes:
>In article <854@sdcc13.ucsd.EDU> ln63szb@sdcc13.ucsd.edu (Grobbins) writes:
>>In article <1466@uvacs.CS.VIRGINIA.EDU> dam@uvacs.UUCP (Dave Montuori) writes:
>>>                 I *will* report anyone I see doing so.
>>(This rule) requires a student to be a judge and possibly an executioner.
>No, this rule requires a student to be a contributing member of society.
>Isn't that what college is there for?  The attitude you express is the 
>same sort of silly "don't want to get involved" nonsense that left Kitty
>Genovese dying in an alley.

Honor situations are seldom simple.  When I turn in a cheater, I
must judge for myself if that person really was cheating, and then I
must be willing to have them suffer a serious penalty based on my
judgement.  I assure you, it's not a good feeling to have condemned
another's academic career based on your quite limited understanding of
a situation.

>If you won't report an honor code violation,
>how can I expect you to report when someone's holding a knife to my
>throat?  After all, your testimony might get my assailant convicted...

I may report an honor code violation, I may report your hypothetical
assailant.  Then again, I may not; I may not be certain of just who
your assailant was, I may not feel he should be punished for holding
a knife to your throat.  

All I'll promise is that I won't cheat, that I won't hold a
knife to your throat, and that I'll follow my conscience.

Grobbins     ln63szb@sdcc13.ucsd.edu