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Subject: Re: Cheating on Programming Assignments (Honor System)
Message-ID: <493@herman.UUCP>
Date: Fri, 15-May-87 23:20:21 EDT
Article-I.D.: herman.493
Posted: Fri May 15 23:20:21 1987
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In article <1501@uwmacc.UUCP>, edwards@uwmacc.UUCP (mark edwards) writes:
> [...]
>  The orient has a thing called "saving face". Sometimes it costs them
> lots of money. 

And lots of lives too.  Consider what typically happened to a defeated army in
Japan during their (numerous) civil wars:  The losing side all submitted to
beheading.  Very efficient for the victorious side.  Very disasterous and final
for the losing side.  Very face saving for both sides.

> [...] Honor is probably also culturally based, or defined. So what [...]

Not probably; rather, most definitely!

> [...] would seem natural that honor would differ from area to area within
> the US.

Unfortunately, it appears that you can go even farther than that, it differs so
much from person to person in the US.  It seems that the US is enough of a
cultural melting pot that i haven't been able to discern any kind of real
"pools" of attitudes towards honesty.  Of course, i haven't been to too many
places in the US either!  (:-)

derek