Relay-Version: version B 2.10 5/3/83; site utzoo.UUCP Path: utzoo!utgpu!water!watmath!clyde!rutgers!sri-spam!mordor!lll-tis!ptsfa!ihnp4!ihdev!pdg From: pdg@ihdev.UUCP Newsgroups: comp.unix.questions,comp.edu,comp.lang.misc Subject: Re: Student friendly assemblers Message-ID: <1407@ihdev.ATT.COM> Date: Tue, 19-May-87 22:19:21 EDT Article-I.D.: ihdev.1407 Posted: Tue May 19 22:19:21 1987 Date-Received: Fri, 22-May-87 01:03:41 EDT References: <351@aucs.UUCP> <588@maccs.UUCP> <234@brandx.rutgers.edu> <593@maccs.UUCP> <6725@mimsy.UUCP> <663@boulder.Colorado.EDU> Reply-To: pdg@ihdev.UUCP (Joe Isuzu) Organization: American Nasal Amputation Centre Lines: 20 Xref: utgpu comp.unix.questions:2144 comp.edu:346 comp.lang.misc:398 Here is the solution to your assembler user-friendlyness woes. Get hold of a PDP/11 - a model with the toggle switches in front. Make the students do their first few programmes in machine language by entering them with the toggle swithes, one instruction at a time (of course there is no `editing' of the code, just replacement). Then let them loose on an assembler, *any* assembler. They'll be so happy to use it, they'll even settle for editing with 'ed'. Okay, half a :-). But actually I do agree with the m4 crowd - it works for me! -- Paul Guthrie "Another day, another Jaguar" ihnp4!ihdev!pdg -- Pat Sajak