Relay-Version: version B 2.10 5/3/83; site utzoo.UUCP Path: utzoo!mnetor!seismo!mcvax!ukc!its63b!hwcs!aimmi!gilbert From: gilbert@aimmi.UUCP (Gilbert Cockton) Newsgroups: comp.edu Subject: Re: Cheating on Programming Assignments (Honor System) Message-ID: <20@aimmi.UUCP> Date: Wed, 20-May-87 08:40:56 EDT Article-I.D.: aimmi.20 Posted: Wed May 20 08:40:56 1987 Date-Received: Sat, 23-May-87 09:52:34 EDT References: <263@rruxa.UUCP> <1532@celtics.UUCP> <1501@uwmacc.UUCP> <493@herman.UUCP> Reply-To: gilbert@aimmi.UUCP (Gilbert Cockton) Organization: Heriot-Watt/Strathclyde Alvey MMI Unit, Scotland Lines: 37 In article <493@herman.UUCP> version B 2.10.2 9/18/84; site aimmi.UUCP aimmi!hwcs!its63b!ukc!mcvax!seismo!columbia!rutgers!dayton!meccts!herman!det det@herman.UUCP (Derek Terveer) writes: > >Unfortunately, it appears that you can go even farther than that, it differs so >much from person to person in the US. It seems that the US is enough of a >cultural melting pot that i haven't been able to discern any kind of real >"pools" of attitudes towards honesty. Of course, i haven't been to too many >places in the US either! (:-) > I'm not sure that the melting pot argument accounts for everything, especially as most countries have been melting pots at some time in their development. USENET readers in the States may be interested in a common European analysis of the apparent lack of solidarity and communal consciousness in the U.S. Roughly, the idea is that America has always been big enough to allow people to move out rather than conform to group pressures. If this is true, then years of pushing back the frontier will have eroded the ability to toe the line for the sake of group values. As America seems to be running out of space, this could cause social problems in the decades to come, with only outside threats developing any sort of cohesion (e.g. reds in Mexico, Arab missiles in the Gulf etc.) Note also though that Durkheim's analysis of mechanical and organic solidarity proposes that any society with a highly developed division of labour will tend to fragment into groups with differing and even opposing values. Thus all (post-)industrial societies are bound to be less conformist than pre-industrial ones. What may have happened in European colonies where the natives were pushed into reservations is that the effects of the division of labour were amplified by the ease of running off rather than shaping up, hence the rampant individualism which seems to characterise America and the white Commonwealth. -- Gilbert Cockton, Scottish HCI Centre, Ben Line Building, Edinburgh, EH1 1TN JANET: gilbert@uk.ac.hw.aimmi ARPA: gilbert%aimmi.hw.ac.uk@cs.ucl.ac.uk UUCP: ..!{backbone}!aimmi.hw.ac.uk!gilbert