Relay-Version: version B 2.10 5/3/83; site utzoo.UUCP Path: utzoo!mnetor!seismo!mcvax!ukc!stc!idec!camcon!anc From: anc@camcon.co.uk (Adrian Cockcroft) Newsgroups: comp.sys.amiga,comp.graphics Subject: Re: PC2 Graphics beats Amiga Message-ID: <522@titan.camcon.co.uk> Date: Mon, 11-May-87 13:38:50 EDT Article-I.D.: titan.522 Posted: Mon May 11 13:38:50 1987 Date-Received: Fri, 15-May-87 01:33:20 EDT References: <1137@hal9000.UUCP> Organization: Cambridge Consultants Ltd., Cambridge, UK Lines: 44 Summary: sources for PC2 rumours Xref: mnetor comp.sys.amiga:4753 comp.graphics:632 >>The high end PC2's have a plug in card with 1 Meg of video ram and >>use the intel 82786 graphics chip. These machines are 80286 and >>80386 based. > > Are you talking about IBM's 1024x768x8 high resolution card ? ... > > Geoff Shapiro No, I think there must be 3 levels of graphics on the PC2, 1) gate array with video RAMs 640*480 but not enough RAM for 8 bpp at this resolution. 2) 82786 based 640*480*8 bpp same display with enough RAM and 82786 for hardware windows & bitblt/line drawing. This may be mixed VRAM and page mode DRAM. 3) something else giving 1024*768*8 bpp. This won't be an 82786 since the pixel clock on the 82786 has a max of 25 MHz. Is 2) an 82786? Well the 82786 documentation goes on and on about 640*480*8 resolution and lists lots of IBM PC style software companies doing things for it (e.g. DR GEM-786). I have heard that a UK company is doing the IBM presentation manager software for the 82786 and I asked a technical support guy from a UK Intel distributor and he said that it was definitely in there somewhere but that he was not sure what was in what! Maybe someone has a hardware spec of the whole range and can settle this. All the press so far is on the low end machines and the 82786 is only just into production so I suspect that the software drivers aren't ready and it will come along later. I have just noticed that I said the PC2 plug in will have 1 Meg video RAM, I meant graphics RAM since the 82786 only does hardware windowing if used with page mode DRAMs (but it can support VRAMS as well). I will restrict further discussion of the 82786 to comp.graphics but it might be fun to put a PC 82786 plug-in into an A2000.... :-) -- ---- Adrian Cockcroft anc@uk.co.camcon (0223) 358855 ---- Cambridge Consultants Ltd, Science Park, Cambridge CB4 4DW, England