Relay-Version: version B 2.10 5/3/83; site utzoo.UUCP Path: utzoo!utgpu!water!watmath!clyde!rutgers!ames!sdcsvax!hutch From: hutch@sdcsvax.UUCP Newsgroups: comp.graphics Subject: Re: NTSC converters Message-ID: <3263@sdcsvax.UCSD.EDU> Date: Wed, 3-Jun-87 01:21:31 EDT Article-I.D.: sdcsvax.3263 Posted: Wed Jun 3 01:21:31 1987 Date-Received: Fri, 5-Jun-87 03:04:14 EDT References: <1208@batcomputer.tn.cornell.edu> <2049@utah-gr.UUCP> Reply-To: hutch@sdcsvax.UCSD.EDU (Jim Hutchison) Distribution: na Organization: UCSD EMU Project (Educational Microcomputer Unix) Lines: 39 Keywords: NTSC, RGB, Video Thus sayeth Spencer Thomas in article <2049@utah-gr.UUCP> (thomas@spline): >So spake (James Ferwerda) verily <1208@batcomputer.tn.cornell.edu> (jaf@squid.tn.cornell.edu): >>a way of converting our 1280 X 1024 X 24 bit RGB images into some NTSC >>compatible format. >Cain't be done. NTSC only applies to "525" line systems. You need a >frame buffer that has approximately 480 lines in the vertical >direction, and a 30Hz interlaced scan (i.e. 60Hz field rate). Well, yes & no. Lyon Lamb supposedly sells a nice little widget that will convert gold (high res RGB) into lead (NTSC). Basicly it is a frame buffer and some signal conversion gear. The 1280 is just pixel rate conversion, the 1024 is black magic to me (deep analog magic, or dropping lines?). Presuming that you know you will be losing colors and pixels in the conversion, I can't see why it is impossible. I am not berating Spencer, perhaps I have missed his meaning. Important note, you get about 424 color changes in the horizontal direction. There is also a limitation on how close together you can put color changes. It is all nasty analog biz, look at the equations/definitions and calculate how far you can push it before the chroma starts sneaking into the luminance. The number of changes is a function of how much the signal knows and *guesses* about the contents of a scanline. Yup, NTSC guesses. More nasty biz, when it is sliding through a sync pulse it is also continuing with the last thing it knew to display (color & luminance-wise). Well, along with Spencer's suggested reading, you might also look at the NTSC spec from EIA, the SMPTE journals are another suggested source. I'm no master, just saying a piece in the name of the revolution. - -- Jim Hutchison UUCP: {dcdwest,ucbvax}!sdcsvax!hutch ARPA: Hutch@sdcsvax.ucsd.edu Disklame'r: One greater than the greatest signature representable with 184 symbols.