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From: ns@maccs.UUCP (Nicholas Solntseff)
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Subject: Re: Teaching Assembler on VAX (BSD 4.3)
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Date: Thu, 14-May-87 15:51:21 EDT
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In article <351@aucs.UUCP> wdw@aucs.UUCP (Bill Wilder) writes:
>The School of Computer Science at my site wishes to teach undergraduate
>assembly language programming on a VAX 11/780 running BSD 4.3. Is the
>default assembler "as" suitable (i.e. friendly enough) for student use?
>If not, can anyone point me to an alternate VAX assembler that is
>friendlier and does operate under Berkeley UNIX?

Two years ago I ran our assembler programming course under BSD4.2 and vowed
never to do it again.

There is NO macro assembler available for the VAX (unlike the PDP-11).  I 
scoured the entire planet via USENET, COMPUSERVE, and Telecom -- to no
avail.  

The conclusion was -- for a user-friendly assembler I would have to go VMS!

Good luck to you, Bill.  If you find something suitable, do let me know.

Thanks.