Relay-Version: version B 2.10 5/3/83; site utzoo.UUCP Path: utzoo!mnetor!seismo!rochester!ken From: ken@rochester.ARPA (Ken Yap) Newsgroups: comp.unix.questions,comp.edu,comp.lang.misc Subject: Re: Teaching Assembler on VAX (BSD 4.3) Message-ID: <27848@rochester.ARPA> Date: Sun, 17-May-87 19:36:48 EDT Article-I.D.: rocheste.27848 Posted: Sun May 17 19:36:48 1987 Date-Received: Sun, 17-May-87 22:45:38 EDT References: <351@aucs.UUCP> <588@maccs.UUCP> <234@brandx.rutgers.edu> <593@maccs.UUCP> <6725@mimsy.UUCP> Reply-To: ken@rochester.UUCP (Ken Yap) Organization: U of Rochester, CS Dept, Rochester, NY Lines: 14 Xref: mnetor comp.unix.questions:2374 comp.edu:387 comp.lang.misc:398 Perhaps the poster referred to the quality of the error messages. I like the PDP-11 RT-11 assemblers best in this regard in the bad old days. One course I TA'ed used a cross assembler and a simulator for a PDP-11 architecture. The students managed alright. Frankly I think teaching more than a smattering of assembler is a WOMBAT (waste of money, brains and time). It should only be necessary for that 1% of bit-twiddling that needs speed or needs to use a special instruction. Or to read generated code, if you write compilers. Does anybody remember KT's (DMR's?) subtitle on the as manual in the V7 docs? "The ultimate dead language". Ken